Caring for an albino dog

Would you care to invest your love on an albino dog? A major fraction of professed dog lovers would frown at getting an albino dog. Dogs with this congenital disorder are hard to care for. An albino dog owner would do everything to boost the immune system of the dog but just the same, it would be difficult to maintain the health of the pet.

One argument about caring for this dog is the short life span. Losing a pet is certainly heartbreaking given that they are already considered as family members. Dogs are humanвЂ™s most loyal companions. They are not called Velcro pets for nothing. But how can you take an albino dog out in the beach knowing that sun exposure would be harmful to the dog? Because of the decreased melanin protection of the skin, the dog is more prone to being sunburned. The risk of skin cancer is as well greater in these dogs. With an albino pet, you can say goodbye to the pleasurable time on the poolside during hot summer days. A hunting enthusiast cannot take the dog hunting. Obviously, the dogвЂ™s color would not be an effective camouflage. Complete albino dogs are noted to be deaf and visually hampered. These disabilities cause the dog to be fearful and to have an unstable temperament.

An albino dog though, just like any other dog is friendly and affectionate. True, this dog would need more tender loving care but they do make good companions. Moreover, albino dogs fit the bill for people requiring unique and exotic looking pets. The pale colored eyes and the all white coloring makes these dogs absolutely beautiful.

Albinism is a genetic defect that is characterized by the absence or deficiency of an enzyme necessary for the production of melanin, a compound that generally serves as pigment in the skin, hair and eyes. An albino dog therefore would have no color in the eyes and fur. The fur will be white, the eyes, the lips, nose and other exposed skin will be pink in color. Albinism cannot be treated but the conditions associated with this congenital defect can be managed. This means that you can get an albino dog for a pet. Of course the dog would need a little more care but all the extra efforts will be fully compensated by the affection, loyalty and companionship the dog will give.

Melanin protects the skin from sun radiation. The absence of this compound makes an albino dog highly vulnerable to severe sunburn and skin cancer. Too much exposure to the sun must be avoided. It is therefore necessary to protect the skin from too much exposure to sunlight to prevent the occurrence of these conditions. Who says you cannot take the dog outdoors? You can have the albino dog as a jogging companion as long as you do not jog during the hottest part of the day. Sunscreen will protect the dog from the damaging ultra violet rays of the sun. Protective clothing will achieve the same results while giving the dog an attractive and attention grabbing appearance. Eyes must be protected from sunlight as well. Invest in canine goggles. These sunglasses will ease the pain the dog feels from too much sunlight.

Dogs, even albinos are naturally energetic. These dogs will not know that harsh sunlight has harmful effects on their skin and eyes. Commonly, albino dogs would ignore the discomfort felt from being out in the sun. It would be up to the pet parent to make sure that the dog is confined inside the house during the hottest part of the day. When it comes to maintenance and care, albino dogs may not be the best representative of manвЂ™s companions but these dogs are not to be considered bad pets.

The Difference Between Albino Dogs and White Dogs

Albinism in dogs is caused by a lack of melanin and pigmentation; albino dogs are pretty rare.

Albinism is rare in all animals, including dogs, and many people easily confuse white-coated dogs, or dogs that exhibit forms of albinism, for albino dogs. True albinism is a genetic condition in which pigmentation of eyes, coat, and skin is completely absent.

An important distinction to draw between dogs with white coats and albino dogs is that white-coated dogs produce the color white, while albinos only appear white due to lack of pigmentation.

Albino dogs, or dogs with a form of albinism, are unable to produce sufficient melanin. White is a color; albinism is the absence of color. Photo by mi_pequena_luna on Instagram.

All-white dogs have genetic markers by virtue of which the white pigment masks, or suppresses, all other colors. Albinism, on the other hand, is caused by the absence of both melanin and the enzymes that produce it. That said, some dogs exhibit characteristics of albinism without being true albinos. Let’s explore the distinctions, as plainly and legibly as possible, and see what makes an albino dog an albino.

How can you tell if you have an albino dog?

Without genetic testing, albino dogs can only be determined most easily by a close inspection of his nose and eyes. Like albino cats, the eyes and the tissue surrounding the eye sockets of albino dogs appear to exhibit a pinkish hue. The pink in both eyes and skin is not true pink, though. What seems to be pink is actually the result of diffused blood flow in these areas.

Note the pale pink of the skin surrounding this albino Maltese’s eyes and on its nose. Photo by eunjishere on Instagram.

Dog and cat eyes are able to process a great deal more available light than human eyes. This is not only why they have far superior night vision, but also why their eyes appear red in flash photography. What we perceive as pink or red in any standard dog’s eyes is simply excess light reflected back out through the blood vessels in their eyes.

The pink of an albino dog’s eyes, nose, and the skin, especially surrounding the eyes and mouth, will appear to be very pale, even bleached out. An albino dog’s eyes themselves may retain some minor pigmentation, but this coloration, too, is pale or translucent in nature. The lack of melanin and pigmentation in a dog’s skin puts these dogs at higher risk, not only for sunburn, but also for developing skin cancers.

This is Gohan, an albino dog. Note the absence of color on the nose and around the eye sockets.Photo by gohan the dog on Tumblr.

Partial albinism in dogs

Some dogs may appear to be true albinos, but retain some pigmentation, which will be most noticeable on the nose or stomach. We can call this partial albinism, but there is actually a range of melanins, and as such, a wide variety of albinisms are possible and observable in dogs.

Eyes and skin of albino dogs may appear pink, but it is the diffused color of blood vessels. Posted by a life of pitbulls on Tumblr.

That said, in cases of partial albinism, dogs produce only a small amount of melanin, sufficient to produce limited coloration. With the exception of small areas of pigmentation, whether in eyes, skin, or coat, what remains will retain that extremely pale, color-drained appearance.

Coat patterns sometimes confused with albinism

Instances of limited coloration in non-albino dogs produces two coat patterns, each producing limited color swatches on a dog’s coat and skin. These patterns are known in breed standards and kennel clubs as “piebald” and “merle.” Piebald dogs have mostly white-colored coats that display large spots or patches of dark coloration. Merle-coated dogs exhibit splotches or patches of color, not only on the coat, but on the skin as well.

This beautiful dog is Keller, a double merle Australian Shepherd. Her owner writes very movingly about the difficulties and health issues of double merle dogs, not to be confused with albinos. Photo by allaussies on Tumblr.

Dogs with merle coats are also prone to having heterochromatic, or different-colored, eyes. As in white cats, the genes responsible for coat color, eye, and ear health are not causally linked, so white and albino dogs are not necessarily more likely to be born blind or deaf. However, a rare genetic combination, known as “double merle,” does carry inherent health risks. Double merle dogs, like Keller in the photo above, may be mistaken for albino dogs. Unlike true albino dogs, who, aside from light sensitivity, are generally healthy, double-merle-coated dogs are at higher risk for both deafness and blindness.

Light sensitivity in albino dogs

Melanin serves a number of uses in the body aside from providing pigmentation. In the eyes, the presence of melanin is one thing that allows dogs to process and filter light. For a true albino dog, without melanin or without much, direct sunlight causes pain in their eyes which makes them squint. True albino dogs should get minimal and carefully managed exposure to direct sunlight.

Albino dogs, or dogs with partial albinism, are highly sensitive to direct sunlight. Photo by gordy stop being weird on Tumblr.

Light filtration is not the only purpose for melanin. With regard to the skin and body, it provides natural protection from the sun, as well as contributing to the body’s ability to fight off infection. Further, albino dogs are far more prone to sunburn and to developing skin cancers due to their extreme photosensitivity.

Share your experiences with albino dogs

Though it is rare, albinism is not restricted to any particular breed of dog. Have you ever owned or encountered any albino dogs? What breed or mix was the dog? If you have lived with and cared for an albino dog, what differences and adjustments did you make, in terms of regular exercise routines or living conditions, to make sure his needs were met? We’d love for you to share your experiences with albino dogs in the comments!

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The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid

Did you know the Doberman exists in 5 different colors?

Most people know the Doberman as a black dog with brown markings. This is the most popular and the most often seen hair color. But some people are surprised to find out that the Doberman is also born in other colors.

The 5 different coat colors:

The most common Doberman hair color is the black and tan which is sometimes called black and rust. In a healthy dog, it looks shiny and sleek.

The next most widely seen color is the red Doberman, with a light brownish-red hair coloring. Sometimes red Dobermans are called “chocolate Dobermans“. There are different shades of red hair, ranging from a copper tone to a dark chocolate. The color names also vary around the world, Europeans call red Dobermans, brown.

Below you see the traditional black and tan Doberman alongside a red Doberman.

Black & Tan Doberman | Red Doberman

Blue Doberman | Fawn Doberman

Seen much less often, the Doberman dog is also born in a fawn color and a blue color.

Blue Dobermans and fawn Dobermans are both color dilutions. The fawn Doberman, (sometimes called Isabella color) is a diluted red. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. The blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman. The color may have a charcoal gray tone, silver or a purple tone.

These colors are sometimes discouraged from breeding. They are considered a disqualifying fault in some dog shows. Even so it’s felt that these dogs are not inferior to the reds or blacks if good breeding is present.

The White Doberman

Lastly, we have the rare Doberman with white or light colored cream fur. The White Doberman Pinscher came from inbreeding and is considered a partial albino Doberman. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976. White Dobermans today descend from Sheba, who was inbred to create the white Dobermans.

It’s common knowledge that these white Dobermans tend to have health problems and behavioral issues. They can have skin and eye sight problems like photosensitivity. Because of its poor vision and the dog being unsure of its surroundings, this may lead to fear biting. Some countries have banned the breeding of this dog mutation and breeders are encouraged not to purposely breed for this color. It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns.

The white Doberman looks interesting but breeders should avoid introducing these dogs into their bloodlines. Consumers and dog lovers also need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. Although these white Dobermans look beautiful, these dogs should not command higher dog prices. Especially when they may need more medical care.

Having said all this, if you do find a white rescue Doberman or a white from a breeder with a good reputation who does health testing, please give them a chance. Not all white Dobermans are problematic and they can still make great companions.

It is rarely seen, but an all black Doberman can occur. This is known as a melanistic Doberman. These are black Dobermans without the usual rust markings. Like the white Doberman, they should not be bred. These black Dobermans are not part of the standard for the breed. Ethical breeders who care about Dobermans won’t breed these dogs.

What’s Your Favorite Doberman Color?

In a survey on this website, we asked visitors which color was their favorite.

14,568 votes were collected over five years. The winner as expected was the black & tan color with 62% of the votes, with the reds in second place with 24%. It’s interesting that blue Dobermans slightly beat out fawn Dobermans by 2%.

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All Dobermans can be gentle with kids if raised the correct way. They are very protective and loyal. I have a male Isabella or fawn that has so much personality. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. He loves the nieghborhood kids and all of the visitors that come into the house but he is always on guard when strangers come around. He does have a barking problem and absolutely hates the squirrels that tease him. I have owned numerous breeds all of my life and he is by far the smartest , funniest , and loyal dog of them all. I love him to pieces.

How is the red and black dobermans with children, especially small children?

I just wanted to say that it’s a shame that people give ALBINO Dobermans such a bad rap….I have had Dobermans since 1987 and they are GREAT companions…before about 35 years ago I saw a white doberman and other exotic animals that were in the news from being taken from a home in Eastwood,NY…some asshole was arrested for having all these animals that he didn’t have licenses for…when I saw the Albino in the news I wanted to adopt him and very sad to say that when I called the SPCA told me that he was unadoptable..I asked why and they said because his owner would take a tazer to the dog and because of that they had to put him down…I was so angry that an innocent dog was treated that way…..last year I found my Albino and he is GREAT….so loveable, playful and and just amazing couldn’t ask for a more loving dog….People need to stop judging dobermans and dogs in general…its not the breed of the dog its how you raise/train the dog…you as an owner are what you make your dog to be just like a child…your actions mold the dog……keep your heart open to all dogs ALBINOS too

I have two Doberman’s both female a red/rust and white/cream. I have to disagree about additional health problems with the white/cream. My red/rust has a bladder issue and is on daily Proin. Other than that and some skin issues (common) she is beautiful and healthy. My white/cream girl is perfectly healthy. She has a perfect Doberman physique and is unbelievably sweet and kind. The two girls together are amazing. I will say that a lot of white ones end up out there for rescue or adoption. Not sure if it is the novelty of the color that makes people want them and then reality sets in – Doberman’s are not low maintenance dogs by any stretch. I will say the bad press about white/cream does not help. I wish people would not perpetuate poor information.

Hi, this is a great post, even after so much time. I recently purchased a melanistic all black doberman from a reputable breeder and in conversation with her about the different colors of dobermans, she said that the cream ones are not albino at all. She has several very healthy cream ones and after having one lab-tested the results came back with no classification of albino whatsoever. These cream, or as some say white ones, were first documented in the 1920’s as being a ‘dirty or apricot’ color. I started to use the term cream in identifying them as well because, let’s face it, they are a cream color and not white or albino.

I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. I’ve been studying this breed for about 6 years now and I continue to learn so much. Thank you for all your great comments.

My daughter has a 1 yr old purebred Red Doberman/German Shepherd and he is a doll. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. He has never met a stranger and loves kids. I have seen him go up to a child that was fussy and nuzzle them to make them happy (with the parent’s permission). His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. He has all the red & tan Dobie markings and body style but the hair texture, ears and tail of a GS. Completely gorgeous and I have never seen another like him. Yes, he requires a lot of exercise but the entire family is spoiled by his great temperament. He is crate trained for while she is at work and he loves to go for rides and hikes. He just seems like an old soul with a great sense of humor and there are times when we all know that he is the one training us! With the right training and socializing, any dog can be a perfect fit. Do your research.

There was a white Doberman at the humane society in my town the last time I went. He had behavioral problems and absolutely hated men for some reason. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. The people at the shelter wanted her to adopt him, but they couldn’t because he needed to go to a female only home. They guessed he had been abused by a man before, which is really sad. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. He looked kind of like a ghost dog. I hope they’ve found him a good home by now.

My Granddaughter, bought a red, an American bred. Then she bought a black and rust European bred puppy from a totally different breeder. They had a rainbow litter of 1 black, 2 reds, 1 fawn, and two white twins( sadly one of the twins were still born.) I have the white, she kept the fawn and sold the other pups. At the time I took the white because I knew that she would be spayed because I’m not in the dog breeding business. My white is now 6 months old and I couldn’t be happier with her in all regards. I don’t think all the voodoo science about the whites are real. My pup is a normal 6 month old Dobe, she visits her fawn sis all the time and is happy and healthy. Yeah, I don’t take her out in the middle of the day( we live in Florida) but I don’t go out in the middle of the day either! If I was going to go to the beach with her, I have her doggles and sun screen just like I would for my blond haired, blue eyed kids. Too much hate and misinformation going on here.

Additional advice to the owners.

Our dobbies are as a people some more healthy, some less. To avoid serious shock for your pocket – take the pet insurance. It isn’t expensive (

$25 for puppy, young and adult and

$50 for seniors per month ). Deduction is usual $100 – $200, and your reimbursement 80% of your bill. For example, when my dobby at the his last year got arthrit, my bill was some more $500, but I received back from insurance $430 in couple weeks.

Doesn’t matter which color has your doberman, matter is you have a doberman.

In the past I had 2 German Shepperd, but after my first blue doberman all my family totally fall in love in this breed and couldn’t imagine our home without doberman. My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. He had non – cropped ears , but we didn’t have any problems with it (BTW sometimes my German Shepperd had ears problem). Than I think cropped or not doberman’ ears depending only from owner and his skills to stay cropped ears – this process is long.

Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. ..

Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children – take doberman.

I like any dog without its ears cut off. Such a pity the US still allows this irresponsible practice.

I have a white Dobberman, he is the BEST! Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love.

hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:moalfez01@gmail.com

Hi David Acosta,

You are right, you do have to be a bit careful with White Dobes getting too much sun. As with any Nordic human being, we know that the less color pigment in our skin, the more susceptible we are to the harmful ultra-violet sun rays.

All Dobermans are sensitive to the cold, as well. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring.

So, Steele gets a bit of sun block on his nose. Both my Black/rust girl, Phoenix and Steele get a fleece lined coat in the Winter.

It’s just a thing we do to protect our four-legged family members.

What the people have a problem with…. is the unfounded accusations that the Recessive gene that Expresses as a “White Doberman”, also carries a trait that make them inferior to their colored cousins. This is a fallacy. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe.

You are very fortunate to have been blessed with your Dober-pal. I have never been owned by a “White”, but I’ve been blessed to know several, very, very well.

They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. Every bit as PERFECT as any other color expression of our beloved Doberman Pinschers.

KJ – Hi, I don’t know if you ever got an answer…As to where you could find a good, responsible, conscientious breeder, who may have “White Doberman Puppies”

Rainbow Haus Dobermans in Eland, WI was owned by Brigette Block, until, God Rest Her Soul, she passed away. Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole.

They are beautiful, rare Dobies. They are not genetic Mutations that should be culled at birth. I have known many White Dober-girls/boys, through Brigette. I have Never seen an “Albino”, they aren’t deaf, or skittish, or brain damaged, as described by bias people who refuse to look at real proof. They are evey bit the cherished Doberman Pinscher we all know and love. They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream.

And they do not carry a trait on the white gene that make them unhealthy. You stand a greater chance of getting a black and rust, from a careless breeder, that carries the dreaded Von Willebrands, Wobbles, etc.. than getting a White Doberman from a Careful, Conscientious Breeder, such as RainbowHausDobermans

Good Luck to you.

This article forgot to mention that not long ago, the “fawn” and “blue” Doberman pups were culled (Killed) at birth.

The German, or Euro, Dobermans are produced with intentions focused on the “working/security’ dog, as intended by Louis Doberman. If you ever get a chance to see a German Bred Doberman, be sure to take a lot of photos and video, then compare it to any Dobe bred in the United States. The difference is obvious at first glance, but on careful study, you will see how much of the original Doberman Pinscher has been deleted from its current U.S. counterparts. Other than its “color points”, which immediately identify this dog as a Doberman, (or a branch of the ancient Rottweiler) the differences are so dramatic that it may need to be classified as a new breed.

Don’t get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the American Doberman Pinscher. The two who currently share my life are the most recent of the 11 Doberman Pinschers that have graced my world from my past.

I can’t imagine life without a Dober-girl/boy by my side.

I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. First, As I initially stated, it hasn’t been that long ago that blue and fawn puppies were culled. Considered an undesirable gene mutation. Today, they are sought after, registered and shown (successfully).

Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well.

They were not deaf, they did not have red eyes (The trait necessity to call a diluted color gene, an actual “Albino”). None of these 4 dogs, nor the other dozen or so that I briefly met, suffered from Von Willebrands, Wobbles or any other disease, for that matter. They each had the same personality characteristics, that we all hold in such high regards as their “acceptable” colored cousins.

In fact, one of these White Doberman Pinschers is a Police Dog.

Rumors have encircled the White Dobies for years. Possibly started to discourage people from breeding with the intentions of producing Whites. But, if you speak with knowledgeable professionals, who hold no bias, you will hear, time after time, after time that the gene that carries the diluted white…..DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CARRY WEAKENED, UNHEALTHY CHARACTERISTICS….This is a fallacy.

A Black and Rust pedigree Doberman Pinscher has the same chance of being a carrier of poor, breed-specific, genes as the White.

Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrand’s Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding.

A lot of people don’t realize, a certain amount of “in-breeding” is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc…) when producing and “bettering” a specified “BREED”. The word “Inbreeding” is thrown around as if it was a curse word. Professional breeders now refer to it as “Line-Bred”. The problem happens when inexperienced people don’t invest in the tests that are necessary to find out which individuals gene pool, either should or should not be crossed, with another. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate them……BUT…..Line-breeding (aka Inbreeding), when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed.

So….should people breed Doberman Pinschers for the specific purpose of producing “Whites”? In my opinion, not a good idea. The gene pool would become weak and “polluted” in a relatively short period of time. Because it is a Recessive gene, white would be bred to white to decrease the chances of the Dominant gene from producing. Because Whites are so rare, that makes for a very tiny gene pool. Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. (Think back on your Punit Square from Biology class)

I do Not think it would be right to breed with the specific intentions of producing a litter of beautiful White or Cream color Dober-Babies.

But, when it does happen….when a bitch produces 7 healthy, beautiful babies, of which one just happens to be White, that pup should not be killed. And it should have the opportunity to be registered with the AKC. Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Proving to the World, what I already know, White Dobermans are simply a rare expression of a Recessive gene that makes their coats an unusual Doberman “Color”, but every other atom of their being is Pure American Doberman Pinscher. It doesn’t get much better than that.

You are a real jerk. Please spay or neuter your pets. If not for their health, at least to cut down on all the poor pets that have to be put down every year in shelters. Be a RESPONSBLE pet owner if your love your fur baby.

the white and the SOLID black are to be avoided. Not the standard black and rust.

There’s a good reason that AKC registers white and white factor Dobermans with the letter Z in the registration number. So quality educated Doberman breeders avoid propagating them. If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. And why would you say AKC and purebred dogs are sick anyway? Did AKC refuse to register something you have? Do you happen to know more than they do?

Just adopted a red/Rust 20 month old male and would like another Dobbie.

Curious about the White Doberman you mention. Still available?

I Had a red and Blond, I Loved this dog and Was the Smartest Dog I have ever had, I will Probably buy another registered Red and Blond , or I Might try a Black and tan this time either way this Dog will have a fantastic Life, Traveling and Being Spoiled.

I am a breeder and my female come from a line of whites. I would never dream of having any other breed they are fantastic. I love the whites and blues they are great

Amen to that… my wallet is clapping in agreement! My Doberman is just a carrier but suffered not only a corneal ulceration but also a host of other skin diseases!

Where to begin… Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked… I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. Little did I know at the time the classification of “WZ” would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. WZ i found out after the fact from AKC is a designation of Doberman’s with the albino trait even though he is a blue Doberman, he is a carrier and hence why he was given that designation.

Back to my story: I was told moZart had increased risk of skin problems and eye problems…. I didn’t pay them any heed however I was in for a painful surprise.

First problem: MoZart lost ALL of his hair/coat from the neck to his hind quarters.

Second major problem and most expensive: woke up one morning and found MoZart wimpering and saw his eyes had changed colors: one was blue, the other a strange greenish color… took him to the emergency vet hospital and found he was suffering from a corneal ulceration :-(. If I did nothing he would have lost his left eye… also there were only 3 dog ophthalmologists in the state of SC and had to subsequently go to Charleston, SC for his therapy to try and save his eye! My bill at the ER hospital for meds alone was: $1400! CASH!! Then another $1000 for ophthalmologist….. in the end he came out ok with the saved eye.

Third problem: our moZart sufferes from lick granuloma issues and benign lipoma tumors (6) in total! So there you have it! I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! My advice would be to first: find out if the pooch you might get has been registered as the dreaded WZ and if so… RUN!

interested in white/black dobie. Please contact me. Have a great forever home full of love

Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. He was rescued, so his ancestry was unknown. I’m sure there was some possibility that he was mixed, but he didn’t look it. He had a very nice temperament also. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears.

Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. First one I’ve seen.

These Dobermans actually do have health probs there white coat shouldn’t be exposed to sun I had a white dobee before

Very much agree. Some people are totally a-holeish about it.

Haha, just like it’s wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those one’s tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldn’t be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRB’s without the ridge?

I mean, AKC and ‘purebred’ dogs are already sick and unhealthy as it is. So. You know. Yeaaaah.

I know of someone that has a 2 year old neutered male that they are trying to find a home for?

Hey Sarah, do you know of a good breeder or where I would have the best chance of finding a white? I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. Ive come into contact with a white before and I fell in love but I dont really know where to look. Help? Thanks.

Your right about euthanasia. People who are disruptive and have bad temperaments should be euthanized too. Never give anyone or any animal a second chance. That’s why good little republicans want to outlaw abortion because who wants an unwanted brat around. Their mothers are forced to have what they don’t want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. You’re a freaking genius.

Some people love dobermans and only want a doberman. They have a personality unlike any other dog, if you had ever owned one you would understand. Stop preaching your personal opinions, it isnt a crime to buy a purebred dog. I have rescued many homeless dogs , but I will always own a doberman too.

Liberal, if someone wants a well bred full bred fog with a health history, family history

Great. I’ve volunteer edo at ASPCAS and many of those dogs have serious physical and emotional issues. Idiot!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I have had Doberman my entire life black reds blues and fawns and currently have 2 whites and they are AMAZING!! NO health issues or behavioral issues at all! They are beautiful amazing dogs!!

Beautifully said. I am honored to read your story. You sound like you have a deep love for the breed. So do I . Would like to tell you my story. We lost 3 German shepherds in 11 months, 2 with in 48 hours of one another. All due to old age band sickness. The youngest was 13 . Our last shepherd Sebastian was so depressed he wouldn’t eat and hid in the corner. He couldn’t handle the loss of his pack. I’ve grown up with Dobermans all my life and I knew Sebastian would die of a broken heart if we didn’t get a companion. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. He rescued us just as much as we rescued him. Their was life again in our house instead of tears and grieving. He was badly abused so we know its going to be a long road. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. Thank you for reading our story. God bless.

Is this a serious post? Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? Also…. most shelter animals make wonderful pets.

I totally agree with Dober mom. We showed Dobermans and Afghans in the late 70’s and in the last 15 years have had three Reds , one Black and Tan and one White. The White boy is the most wonderful dog we’ve ever had. I wish people would stop talking trash about them when they have never experienced having one. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. He is of great character and personality. We rescued him when he was 2 years old and it’s a good thing we didn’t take to heart all the negative comments people write about them. We have watched him self monitor in the sun and while he has skin tags, not one of them has been anything serious or detrimental to him. If you come across a White Dobie, don’t hesitate to give him/her a forever home.

No, you’re probably thinking the red Doberman.

Is there a mahogany Doberman?

VMD and AKC registered Doberman breeder here.

The issue with white Dobermans is that all white Dobermans are severely inbred. When the very first white Dobermans were discovered due to a mutation, they would breed brother and sister white Dobermans together to make more white Dobermans. Due to this, white Dobermans experience many issues that their normal colored siblings wouldn’t, including extremely UV sensitive skin, early on set glaucoma, lapsed patellas, aggression, and more. If your white Doberman really doesn’t have any health or behavioral issues then you are EXTREMELY lucky, for I’ve never once seen a white Doberman without at least one of the issues I mentioned before.

If they got a bad white then it was from a person that did not care about the health and was possibly inbreeding. That will cause many health issues. My whites have never had an issue and are no different than any other color. They are just as loving as any other color. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. A good breeder breeding for health in the whites is going to produce good whites. My first ones never had a health issue up till the day they passed peacefully in there sleep.

I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding.

Before you judge white dobermans I would recommend talking to people that have them.

There is no health issues nor do they have behavioral issues, I find it funny when people say they are bad but have never had or seen one in person lol

Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing.

Love the whites

White Tigers are not albinos, and therefore do not suffer the genetic weaknesses common to albinos. No comparison to white Dobermans, which are albinos.

You’re a FUCKING BOZO. People can do what ever they want as far as getting a dog. Get off your high horse hippe! U sound like an idiot!

You don’t understand breeding. Study up, then post a more informative comment.

Your incorrect. Grammatical, as well.

This came out in the wrong place and is to Evilboo

Evilboo……..you are one mature young lady…respect.

Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. I also agree with not getting dogs from shelters, I want to know where my dogs have come from and that they have had my influence and training from a young age.

You are wrong, recent, proper scientific research is showing the opposite:

Dogs neutered or spayed at any age were at significantly increased risk for developing mast cell cancer, lymphoma, all other cancers, all cancers combined, and fear of storms, compared with intact dogs.

Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs.

Dogs of both genders neutered or spayed at 6 months or younger had significantly increased odds of developing a behavioral disorder, including separation anxiety, noise phobia, timidity, excitability, submissive urination, aggression, hyperactivity, and/or fear biting. When it came to thunderstorm phobia, all neutered or spayed Vizslas were at greater risk than intact Vizslas, regardless of age at neutering.

The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms.

Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered.

Spayed females had nine times higher incidence of hemangiosarcoma compared to intact females, regardless of when spaying was performed, however, no difference in incidence of this type of cancer was found for neutered vs. intact males.

Neutered and spayed dogs had 4.3 times higher incidence of lymphoma (lymphosarcoma), regardless of age at time of neutering.

Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering.

Spayed females had 6.5 times higher incidence of all cancers combined compared to intact females, and neutered males had 3.6 times higher incidence than intact males.

Breeders should Produce what they want as a breeder in a dog as long its healthy and functional or not deformed its about your preference because have to feed keep and raise the dogs not another breeder I wouldn’t dare breed to please other people like if you like it buy it if not I will raise and be stuck but at least I will be stuck with what I like

yes the whites are known to have health issues, the blacks seem ok and are rarely found anyway.

You have two dog, who has one black allel and one white. The white one is hidden if there is a black. But if you breed them, you can get 3 sorts of puppy because the puppy get one allel from each parents:

1.) both allels are black – you get a normal, usual dog (25% chance)

2.) one black and one white, just like the parents (50% chance – this has twice the chance that the both-black or the both-white) – they are carriers, their white gene allel is hidden

3.) both allels are white – you get a white puppy (25% chance)

When the first white dog occured, they inbreed her strongly. It is usual behaviour by breeders when a new mutations occurs. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. Since one white and one black allel means a black (and tan/rust) dog, and the white allel is rare, people can have white-carrier dogs without ever find out.

So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. Don’t worry, there isn’t any problem with this.

I see what is the problem with the white-ish doberman.

But what’s the problem with the all-black ones? They are not standard. And? Standards change when there is enough demand by the breeders. If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. And I feel this a lot less an acceptable reason than the white ones health issues.

Btw the title says ‘The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid’ – but the arcticle says that there is TWO we should avoid. The white and the black. Now what?

Sorry Evilboo all of that was intended for TexasJul

You sound scarily superior to the rest of us – Thread from 2 posts above – ‘Wouldn’t it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? Let’s use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! Your comment is awaiting moderation.

This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future.

It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans.

How sad and pitiful are you ? ‘Look in before you look oot’ an age-old Scottish expression.

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? Let’s use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! Your comment is awaiting moderation.

This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future.

It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans.

This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future.

It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans.

Did you just comment please don’t neuter your dog? How ignorant is this. No its norepriducing It’s a pet. It’s a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because you’re saving the animal giving it a healthier life. Have you ever seen a female dog get cervical cancer?? Do you know they can get cancer if you don’t get them fixed? You claim to have rescued some dogs from the shelter, let me ask something, didnt it break your heart to see that overcrowding there? It’s because of people like you who feel it’s not worth it to neuter them, therefor they keep reproducing . Smh . Maybe you shudnt even own a dog if you feel they’re , how do I put this, um.. “stuoid”. If you ask me it’s people who are ignorant and stupid . (If the shoe fits)

“Responsible” is the key word here. “Responsible” breeders breed healthy dogs. “Responsible” pet owners do what is best for loved pet.

Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish.

Please do not spay or neuter your pets. If your were truly responsible with your pets this would not even be necessary. Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a woman’s ovaries or a man’s testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didn’t think you should have children? Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. Stop. It is safer to put animals down in a shelter than to risk it 1. Being sent to an abusive or unstable home 2. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Shelter dogs are not for everyone. Some people want purebred dogs from a RELIABLE source. Animal shelters are not a reliable source. Most dogs in shelters are… Mutt dogs. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. I got her when I was two years of age and she just recently died. I am now 16) I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. It is also far easier to know the temperament and shape such when purchasing a pure pup. Mutt dogs and shelter dogs can have very unpredictable behavior problems. Shelter pets often come from abusive backgrounds and, like people, may trigger with certain circumstances assuming they don’t start off with poor behavior. For some dogs, like those who were abused to the point of retched temperament, putting them to sleep in a shelter is better than forcing it to live in fear or possibly putting you or your loved ones in danger due its unpredictable nature. Mutt dogs are said to be the best, but this is not always the case. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. I currently have two dogs: a purebred red nose pitbull male and a chocolate brindle female pit lab mix. The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. He is not fixed, and he is very unagressive accept to male dogs who barge into his territory. This is natural. The female is, and I love this dog so do not think I am biased, very stupid. She was only one year old when we rescued her from death row and despite persistent training, she is still very very stupid. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. She is also not fixed. She has never had puppies despite constant companionship from a male who isn’t fixed.

Again, don’t fix your pets because it’s cruel and inhumane. Exercise responsibility instead. Shelter dogs aren’t for everyone. Neither are purebreds. Choose what works for YOU. and please stop guilt trapping people into picking a shelter pet. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. Don’t make someone get a dog from the pound that turns out to be poor tempered, because they are then, by conscience, stuck with said dog.

It is very cruel to spay or neuter pets. That is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries and a mans testicles without their consent. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. Shepherds are excellent at herding, which is their purpose. Pit bulls are amazing at guarding homes, mostly children, and they were bred to be nanny dogs.) but breeding them simply for the pleasure of having a show quality dog is… Dumb. Purebred dogs aside from a few breeds like the Komondor (a very large “mop dog”) are not at all family friendly by nature and are originally bred for WORK, not to keep as a pet. Mutt dogs (shelter dogs) make better pets for the simple fact that they are not typically bred for a specific purpose and this gives them (depending on the mix of breeds) wonderful personalities and surprising qualities. However, they are a bit of a roulette because the negative qualities of their parental breeds are also there. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot.

Religious bashing is rude. While it shouldn’t be on a site about dogs, it’s still rude. All dogs are subject to health problems, purebreds more so. Pure breeding REQUIRES inbreeding. And humans are an inbred species wether or not you believe the principalities of Christianity. Although, that book does contradict itself in so many ways… I digress. All of this snobbery over an inbred animal is simply ridiculous. White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. While the above person’s grammar and spelling IS rather poor, the words being spoken are not stupid, but true. You, however, do sound very stupid and childish by 1. Bashing someone’s religion. 2. Calling them stupid. Keep in mind, we are arguing over a DOG. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. I am 16 years of age and I am more adult than well over half the people leaving comments here. Namely you.

My uncle was swept up in the trend 13 years ago and paid twice the money when he adopted a white doberman. By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. White Dobermans are predisposed to many health issues. Why would someone breed for this on purpose. MONEY. That is the only reason. It is not for betterment of the breed, for confirmation or for the show ring because they are not the breed standard. So, speak up when you know what you are talking about.

just because your white dog is healthy now doesn’t mean it won’t run into issues later. the average human life expectancy in the u.s. is 78 years, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be outliers who live longer due to genetics or other variables. your inbred dog still has unethical genetics.

do you think white tigers should continue to be bred, as well?

Well said! You were spot on and I totally agree with you!

They’re not the ones that have the problem I think you need to seek some help

There are a lot of falsehoods on the internet about so-called albino dog or whites a white which is a cream white mix which is what they’re referring to as Z Factor are not albino

It’s obviously you don’t know a damn thing about the breed do your research get a DNA test stop believing all the crap you see on the internet about white Dobermans none of it is true

Bad genetics is bad genetics, any animal that’s entire blood line can be traced back to a single individual is badly inbreed. This gos for cats, dogs, horses, pigs and any thing else. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. But not being willing to see there is a problem will not help at all

Having nearly 50 years experience with this breed, the one thing to keep in mind is there are known issues which even many who have absolute whites are not aware of and have no understanding of why their dog behaves or reacts certain way. More often than not, this is usually because circumstances the owner thinks “may have” caused such reaction. In truth, there are various factors involved that may have deemed one dog bad, while another dog even from the same litter, but who has never been subjected to the same issues. Too much sun, loud noises, rambunctious children at play, (not just bikes, skateboards, etc) even older kids can get on a dog’s nerves. The environment is everything. So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. But you could try avoiding excessive exposure to direct sun, if you have to take them out, incorporate the use of sunglasses as a medical need, rather than an occasional accessory feature element of having the dog look cool. The blurred vision they experience along with skin irritations from exposure can lead to “itchy nerves” (or more simplified – nervousness), especially after long exposures to direct sunlight and heat or extreme cold. It has been what most often leads to fear biting which is not as prevalent in other colors. Monitor these things, supervise and dedicate time to them as a member of your home. These are not outside pets, should never be exposed to cold or heat for any real length of time, if it’s hot, keep the walks short, if it’s cold out, be brief as possible on potty outings and provide alternatives for exercising with indoor games, fetch in the hallway, , treadmills, etc.

Hahahahaha lol that last question is hilarious 😂😂😂😂

I think I’m in love.

Seriously: Seek help.

You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh?

It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid.

Please don’t justify ignorant human actions and behavior with a book and history that you have proved you have no comprehension of.

Although, inbreeding would explain your human shortcomings.

I have a fantastic WHITE Doberman! She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. This is classic snobbery! My white may squint in the sun but so do I! I’m assuming the person who wrote this article never needs sunglasses! There is way to much overbreeding of ANY breed so don’t single out the white Doberman and make shit up because you were either brain washed or breed and can’t sell one of your “perfect” colored dobermans because someone may purchase a white over yours. I also have 3 reds and 1 black, all healthy.

Look, I’ve owned rescue dogs and purebreds. Currently I have two of my own Dobermans and one foster I am taking care of until she is healthy enough to be placed in a forever home.

Responsible breeders produce healthy dogs with desirable traits that in many cases either ensure a valuable services or facilitate ownership for people who might not otherwise be able to live with a dog.

Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards.

If you want direct you ire at anyone, don’t take aim at responsible breeders and owners who love and care for their animals.

Lay blame where blame belongs, the people who don’t spay, neglect, and/or abuse animals. They’re the ones who cause animals to suffer and waste billions of dollars in resources that could be used elsewhere.

And if you sincerely care about shelter dogs, I also recommend you stop whining on the internet and start pushing your congressman for tougher laws punishing animal abusers and tighter regulation of pet ownership and breeding.

Many European countries have all but eliminated unwanted and stray dogs by cracking down on the behaviors that produce them. America could be the same way if we stop putting the so called “rights” of animal abusers above the health and safety of animals.

I am 66 years old, and am on my 5th Doberman…Perhaps my last and it is unthinkable for me not to not have one.

How you can psychologically mix dog breeding with human color and racism is not just astounding and blithering in it’s ignorance, it is also alarming.

Writer, have you never seen a Chihuahua? Yes humans manipulate genetics for their entertainment at times, and at times they are guided through intelligence and a divergence from the norm that forms that which has given us the diversity in all living things, the mind expanding wild and exhilarating roller coaster ride of explosive evolution.

There are people in this terribly troubled and divisive world that don’t deserve to have the loyalty and unconditional love that most any dog will give openly and freely, even if they do not receive the same comfort and respect from their companion.

I suppose you hold your beliefs deeply. Perhaps through pain or just life’s experiences have instilled, branded them deeply into your heart and spirit. It’s done that to me too. It does that to almost everybody. You are not special. You are the product of mating genetics just as much as a white or silver Doberman or two humans of any color (some better adapted than others awhile, but then things change) because a male had an erection and a female accommodated it by choice or force. That’s you. Howdy.

I’ll buy your dog. That is a serious offer, and transport too. (Unless of course you live on Mars, and I do take that as a serious possibility.) If just to get it away from you and whatever this “white” thing you have is not visited upon the animal. You should come to Alaska,

Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! Additionally, Alaska just has to many kinds of cultures in the small parts that are accessible to support humans in numbers to have to embrace racial beliefs .

I don’t care what harsh bio-cultural forces shaped you, but I don’t like you ya F_____g jerk. I served in the military as an Aviation Search and Rescue Corpsman (and it’s an open wound, not a scar), offering my life along with people of all cultures and colors. I have served in jails, as an assistant in two State Senates, as a contender in the ring with men of all colors and of determined heart, many long walks and talks. and behind the bar gravel parking lots.

Come North of Canada. I’ll introduce myself and more than one “different” color Doberman.

Hope you will sell me your dog. Get yourself another color more to your liking.

North. I’ll introduce myself and more than one “different” color Doberman.

Hope you will sell me your dog. Get yourself another color.

We rescued our white dobie. I’ve had dobies of every color except fawn. By far, my white girl is the healthiest of all of them, and has the thickest, most beautiful coat of all of them too. She’s 11 now, and still going strong. She’s a happy girl, and makes us happy too. When we walk in our little town, she’s a rock star. I’m glad we were in the right place to give this sweet, HEALTHY dog a loving home.

Shut your mouth dumbass, if people wanna spend their hard earned money on something they want then let em….who the f**know are u to say anything. … douchbag. …..is that good for your grammar

Are you kidding? What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. 2) Fall in love with it, and do all you can do to make its life better. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. 4) Pay better attention to grammar, spelling and typing skills.

My white doberman is perfectly healthy, with show quality disposition and features. Nothing wrong with her at all.

I cannot believe what you just said, NO ONE should EVER breed.. hahahahahahaha.. oh yes and while we are on it , lets make our faithful dogs become extinct .. you foolish person yours has to be the most nonsensical comment I have ever read on a doggie site lolol tut tut tut

Yes, Zoey, it is normal.

Amen, Michelle. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. Their temperments were all wonderful and they were glorious blessings. Love this breed and thank you for loving it, too.

only the “white” doberman will have health issues but PLZ fix your dog and do not breed it. I am sure you didn’t know about the z factor before hand and it should say on it’s AKC papers that there is NO Z FACTOR in its bloodline if it comes from quality breeders. My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. Take your pup home and love it. Just be responsible and don’t breed it like the owners of the two dogs that made your little bundle of joy.

To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to “insecure” white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun.

Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they don’t manufacture enough of it in northern countries. I have seen black people and babies with rickets (legs bend). The white skin is a mutation which occurred most likely to increase absorption off vitamin D in northern countries which is where the white races evolved. They have even discovered that Neanderthals had red hair and blue eyes. That is thousands of years ago and they lived in northern Europe and into Russia. So learn more before spouting off. And by the way dogs are not people.

because the black ones are the best for you and far superior to the plain white ones. think of it as thanksgiving dinner if you will. black gives flavor and life, while white dilutes and uses water as base.

Life is like a box of jelly beans no one likes the black ones.

Three years ago I had the same concern. I purchased a red puppy whose dad is red and mom is white. He is a wonderful family dog.. His only health issue is that he’s had runny eyes (nothing major) since he was a pup. Other than that he is in very good health. His temperament is exceptional. I take hm almost everywhere that I can and receive compliments on his look and temperament too. I can’t take him anywhere without people asking if he’s a show dog. Little kids that don’t know him jst run right up to him and want to pet him. He doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body. He is very smart and attentive. I couldn’t have asked for a better dog.

I need help my family and I just purchased a black and rust Doberman from pure breeders.com (I know everyone will have their opinions on the site) and it was just brought to my attention through my asking that the Doberman we are getting z factored. I know that means he will have some of the albino gene in him but is this going to cause any health issues? my family and I are very invested in this puppy his name is Einstein and I’d hate to back out on this because we’ve already grown quite attached to him. Well be receiving him next week once he turns 8 weeks but I’m just worried now that’s all the money I just spent on him I’m going to spend more because of the possible health issues of him being z factored . could anyone tell me their experience if possible with Z factor of puppies?

i have one female puppy white black and brown colors mix i have one doute she is original daberman and fake

I have several dobermans I have all colors including white she is a beautiful happy healthy 2 and a half year old she has no health problems. I think there are a lot of moronic people on this site that are prejudiced as well as an educated even though they should stop and think that humans by their logic are imbread as well because if it was just Adam and eve then some body was double dipping…so white dobermans aren’t alone are they?

I have a beautiful,sweet WHITE dobie who will be five this year. I had a red dobie for 13 years…my white is no different…no added health issues. She has the dobie markings…just two different colors of cream. I agree that the albino is in her gene pool…but, she is NOT an albino.

She is smart and is trained well with a good disposition. She loves to swim in our pool,the lake,ocean, whatever.Black and Tan have always been what most people think about…but, reds,fawns,blues etc…have made there way into common breeding…why not whites? I think some people have developed an absurd bias. Love your dog and I will Love mine!

I think many people don’t want to admit the truth about albino dogs because it resonates with whites people having white skin which is also albinism. Orginal and natural skin is brown due to melanin which attracts the sun and creates vitamin d and makes us stronger. White skin can’t go into the sun and therefore can’t create vitamin D which leaves their bodies to pull it from their bones making them weak and open to osteoporosis and every other diseases and sickness some which albino dogs have in common. You don’t see white plants or trees that are not green becusse they need pigment (chlorophyll thier melanin) to convert sunlight and photosynthesize. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. So there you have it.

I had two doberman a blue and a fawn they both loved to play with tennis balls. When I worked they was able go outside in a large fenced yard . They were taught you give kisses no bite.

Okay, I own a beautiful Dob. Now everyone take a moment and let’s think about how long dobs have been around ? Okay , all of a sudden white/partial albino have popped up and Oh My God it must be a new line of dobs? Give your head a shake. It is a mutation and its animal abuse to breed like this because you think it’s cool . It is proven that the higher percentile have major health issues and a lot of the shows don’t accept them for reasons! Bottom line is that it is a mutation and more importantly it causes health issues for these poor animals! Isn’t that enough ?. Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues.

Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. Is it normal for them to have blue eyes as an adult? He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems.

Laura you should be VERY CONCERNED!

ALBINOS (which there is scientific proof that they are in fact albinos) are always from back yard breeders. They are done with little to no health testing as well as little to no titling. That in no way is improving the breed.

Do not let smooth talking greeders convince you. It’s a crap shoot with albinos. A well bred doberman (which clearly 99% of you have no clue what that is) will be way healthier than an albino.

This whole thread disgusts/disappoints me. 🙁 For all those saying AKC registers albino dobermans, the AKC also register puppy mill dogs, does that make it an acceptable practice?

The PROPER term is black and RUST and it is sad to see you propagating such MISINFORMATION about the breed.

I am getting ready to buy the only black and rust puppy from an all white litter. Should I be concerned?

as a vet i have seen so many of you love don’t love white dobe but the thing is its not about the health or about the color or where it came from what matter is how you love your pets if you define them differently then you define your pets as pest not with love. where is the sense of having love?

I have a male and female black and tan dobermans the female i got frim indiana the male i got from tennessee i just bred them last year and one pup came out white so please explain to me how my white doberman is the product of inbreeding some of you need to realize thats not the only way their made.

The pure ignorance (and arrogance) in a lot of these comments is overwhelming. Is the concept of good breeding practices really so difficult to comprehend? Good breeding is done to maintain the health of the breed as a whole. Continuing to introduce “white” Dobermans into breeding lines is doing a great disservice to the breed in general.

You all claim to care so much about these dogs but yet you obviously put no effort into educating yourselves about them and how maintaining a healthy vibrate breed standard is accomplished. If you truly cared as much as you would like others to believe, you would take the time to understand instead of spouting off at the mouth when its painfully obvious you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Knee jerks reactions, using religion as justification (c’mon get real), using only your particular dog as an example for all, and many other ridiculous defences, only hurts the DOGS in the long-term. You are not helping, you are hurting, period.

White dobermans are great I have one he has no problems at all

I think the people on here telling others that breeding a dog for a look is bad should really stop and think about what they’re saying. Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutt’s alike. What makes these supposed pure breds any better than the mutt’s? I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. All dogs no matter what breed should be spayed bottom line. The local shelter has several purebred dobies waiting to be adopted right now. ANYONE WHO BREEDS OR SHOWS ANY ANIMALS OR MAKES AN ATTEMPT AT BREED STANDARDS OR WHO ONLY OWNS PUREBREDS, has no right to blast anyone else for wanting their dog to look a certain way. If you were any better you wouldnt be breeding dobermans and adding to the unwanted masses of dogs in shelters you would be adopting and careing for the dogs already here. In reguards to health issues, all purebred dogs have more health issues than mixed breed dogs, generally each BREED has its own list of common health problems associated with THAT BREED. My lovely boxer/rottwreiler just passed away last week at the ripe old age of 16! During his life span never suffered from any of the health risks associated to dogs specific on either side of his family. It’s just cruel in my opinion to maintain purebred dogs when the mutts are so much healthier! (about halfway sarcastic) Now I’m starting to sound like some of you guys. Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? All breeds of everything has standards, standards change over time. They always have. They always will!

With regards to the white ‘albino’ Dobermanns, I’m not sure what the hoo-hah is surrounding them? Every pedigree dog has been interbred at its early stage in history to obtain the desired looks etc that are required from it. What is so different with these? Also, what about the numerous pedigrees out there that suffer from various ailments i.e. skin, stomach, ear, breathing etc? One day, the gene pool might be sufficiently large enough to breed-out any unwanted traits from the initial in-breeding…. PS, I don’t own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! 🙂

I have 2 dobes, black and red, and Isabella. The AKC does register white(albino) dobermans. The first recorded albino female, Shebah is not the only white doberman of record. At the time of her registration it was found that there was in fact 7 other AKC registered white dobes. Listed as white only because albino is not a color. These dogs were never tracked nor were their litters. Only Shebah. To say all albinos today come from her blood line is false. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. All white dobes are tracked as “z” by the AKC. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. and there is word that her mother had a albino male ina previous litter that “died at a young age” that was probably destroyed because he was not a breedable color. Fact is that there are still breeders that destroy blues and Isabellas and reds, because they are from mutated genes. if you get one and have it dna tested it may or may not be from Shebah’s bloodline. She is simply the first accepted by the AKC that can be tracked this way.

ahh, its funny to see all the hatred for the white dobbies. I have one too (rescue). She’s sweet and gentle and no problems so far (other than too much love licks). The “funny” part comes in with all the “responsible” breeders implying that their dogs weren’t inbred 1000 times to get to the breed standard. You people are a bunch of hypocrites.

Can a fawn doberman have a pink nose or do all of them have brown nose?

i guess im d only one in the philippines dat owns a white doberman..as i have been breeding red,blue,isabella and black

the thing is..if u breed an isabella with a red rust”my red rust’s mom is also an isabella” a white dobe might come out….which happened to me..”they r not even relatives!’..my white dobbie now is 7 yrs old..hes got no defects at all…hes got 2 balls,perfect eyesight..both eyes tested…no hearing defect..very clean stomach,very nice coat..his coat is a lil rough..not the usual ones dat is very flat on d skin, i did a stress test for him and he passed.. my other dobes r mad with cats ‘most dogs i guess” hehe but my white dobbie is friendly even with my hamster. D i also have a cat and he goes along good with her…my other dobbies dont…

i seriously cannot consider him a fault..as he can do what my other dobes can…HE IS BETTER actually..temperament wise..i can say my dobbie isnt as troubleome as my other “normal”colored dobes..not agressive..its like i own a shihtzu hahaha. D:D

I’d never say to ‘put down’ a doberman that is born with the defect of being ‘white’ but this dog must be spayed or neutered as soon as possible and never bred. Birth defects don’t require you put the dog to sleep, but be responsible and educated. More educated people know about this so spread the word. Love your Doberman that was born ‘white’ but make sure to protect it from the sun, it’s eyes, skin, etc. Their nose is pink usually and skin. So they are very susceptible to sunburn, vision problems. etc. Most of all just LOVE your Doberman because they are very sensitive and require being close to their owners/families. They are NOT a dog you can put out in the backyard and ignore. NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. 🙂

I have grown to love the Dobmerman due to their intelligence, loyalty and gorgeous looks. They are excellent for people with allergies in my humble opinion, very short hair, single coat (no undercoat) Very clean and almost ‘cat like’. I love that they require not coat clipping. Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. Ear cropping is optional, however I like the appearance of the cut ears, it is illegal to cut the Dobermans ears in some European countries. I am an animal activist, but I still think it’s okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. I have only had a female red & rust Doberman but look forward to welcoming a dynamic duo of a female and male to my home as soon as I’m able to. 🙂

A Doberman that is white is not ‘special’ in a good way. It is an albino full of health problems and should never be bred. It is a fault, there are only four allowed colors. Do not purchase a Doberman that is colored ‘white’ or that has any white relatives in their bloodline. Very important. Take it from someone who found out the hard way.

To Marcela Rodriguez; a friend had a blue dobie with skin issues you are experiencing. She used a Shaklee product called Basic H diluted in water. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. She said it worked well. Only try something new on small part of animal at first as sensitivity issues are indivual to dog. Good luck!

PLEASE do research before you try to spout nonsense. “White” Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. It’s been recorded that one champion white even bit his judge prior to winning. All white or mostly white dogs with short hair and pink or light colored skin are more prone to sun burn and skin cancer, this includes boxers, pit bulls, and terriers, which all can be solid white without albinism. Most of the diseases and illnesses recorded in white dobes are nearly constant in other breeds of dogs, regardless of coloration. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. It’s easier to do research than you think. There’s this awesome thing called Google, use it, and don’t just click on the first thing you see and read it. Study and actually thoroughly read what you find. Though this post will probably be burrows by more uneducated comments of “nu-uh’s” and “uh-huh’s” that one could read until they were blue in the face. Maybe one of you will actually finish reading this and do some of you’re own research. Also do research on white tigers, golden tabby tigers, and stripeless, white tigers, as well as Siamese cats and Himalayan rabbits, while you’re at it. All of which are not albinoid. I’m saying white dobes aren’t albinoid, but I’m saying it’s not fact. There’s also no such thing as partially albino. It’s like saying you’re partially pregnant. If an animal lacks pigment in one part of his body (like fur) and not in another (like eyes) it’s attributed to another genetic abnormality. Once more, white tigers come to mind. I took four semesters in genetic based studies just for shiggles; this stuff is easy to understand if you just READ.

I bought a albino dobe and had i known all the problems they have…i don’t think i would of.. I should of googled white dobes b4 i even thought about it but i didn’t and now to see what i have read about them i don’t know how these breader get away will mating them 🙁 It sickens me to think that this is so not fair to the bread..and how clueless sarah at the top of this page really is ugh.. go to the AKC home page and read what color eyes albinos have and all the probs they have 🙁 they can have up to 3 different colors in eye color…

I don’t agree with breeding whites at all. I have a fawn male and a white female, who’s previous owner relinquished her to us. She’s a doll, and we don’t have any issues, but it’s crap about her eyes being normal. A friggin moron would say their eyes are just like ours with normal sun sensitivity, she squints so bad in the sunlight, it looks painful. And she has bright pink skin that burns easily. We take our walks in the evening and she wears sunscreen if we have to be in the sun for extended periods of time. My fawn does have skin allergies, but we are able to keep it under control, with no hair loss and his coat is shiny. I love my babies period, but people just want what is unusual and what others dont have. I don’t know how many ppl have asked if I’m breeding my dogs, I want to look at them like are you crazy? I have a dog, so I should breed? I don’t think so. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. Dilutes are a financial commitment that some people just don’t realize, and that’s why you see so many on Craigslist and rescue groups. Back to the people want the unusual, but don’t realize how much work comes with it.

I had a white male dobermen pinscher. His name was Logan. I don’t know if he was inbreed. He had not sight problems. My parents breed him with a rusty female doberman with tan markings who was not from the same bloodline as Logan and half of eights puppies were white the other half rusty-colored.

and I think that whatever the color they are, Doberman are freaking perfect and lovely. They are worth because of the love they give not because of how many contests they can win.

Hi! I own a blue doberman. It’s soooo cute but his skin is very sensitive and I would like to know if you can share some products to take car of it. I have to say that in some parts of its body there’s lack of hair and I want to know if there’s something to make it grow again. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer.

ANOTHER THING! I NEVER HAD ANY OF MY WHITES FAIL ANY OF THE TESTING OUT THERE…….NOT LIKE THE “ACCEPTED” COLORS!! I USE “Z” FACTOR DOGS IN MY CURRENT LINE AS THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL & EXCELLENT MINDED DOGS!

WHOMEVER WROTE OF THE WHITE DOBERMAN COLOR IS VERY BADLY INFORMED. I NO LONGER HAVE A WHITS DOBIE LIVING BUT WILL HAVE TO SAY THEY WERE SO MUCH BETTER WITH THE COATS THAN MOST DILUTE COLORS I HAVE EVER OWNED. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! THEY WERE GORGEOUS DOGS WITH A UNIQUE COLOR FOUND IN A RECESSIVE GENE! NOT INBREEDING. THERE ARE MANY FINE DOGS OUT THERE BUT YOU GET VERY HORRIBLE COAT & SKIN CONDITIONS FROM THE DILUTE TO DILUTE COLOR BREEDINGS! NEVER EVER DID I SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE WHITE DOGS I CAME ACROSS!

I own a white Dobie and she’s the best dog I have ever had. I don’t understand why you people can’t accept a color. They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. Also they are not albino they are like any other color variation.

i think whitedobielover has the most sense of anyone on here. i have owned dobermans for over 40 yrs and i can remember when this prejudice existed for the isabellas and the blues.

shame on you who would cull a white pup, just because it is white….

i have owned 4 of the 5 colors ( i have never owned a red) and i have to say that the whites and the blacks were the healthiest and had minimal problems. i currently own 3 whites (spayed/neutered) and couldnt be more pleased. their temperament/health/intelligence is a little more than average of all the dobes i have owned…. which makes them VERY smart. we all know that dobes are very intelligent.

if those of you who preach about the health, etc of the whites, why dont yuo get updated material, scientific material, and quit making yourself look so foolish. your arguments are the same bullshit that the DPCA has been touting for years. get with the program and analyze science, instead of opinion and rumor.

What are the health risks for a red pup from a red dad and albino mother?

Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does… I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white… Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property… I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. I can honestly say even thou pitbulls have a bad rep I have no problems with the pitbulls now the dobies I have a major problems with…her dobie attacks my cat and had my kid by the throat I know not all dobies are this way and I still love all dogs but if she was to have a white dobie that was inbreed somehow it highers the risk for innocent people to get hurt… I agree with people who say its not the dogs fault its the owner cause it is but I do not agree with the whole thing that if God made it it should be here God did not tell someone to make inbreed dobies. So get that idea out your head and just research the dog you get before you get it or ask ur local vet.

Reading through all these comments. I have to say I actually own 4 white Dobes and 4 white factored Dobermans. We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. We have beautiful, healthy dogs. We have never had a blind, or deaf puppy. All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. I find it offensive that they are still so many people who have such “passionate” feelings on the subject can’t even do min. research. The whites are AKC. The AKC doesn’t decide the requirements for the “show ring” That would be the breed clubs. There has been “NO” testing done that would prove or disprove the albino theory. Which at this point is all it is. They are no “Documented” facts that say white Dobermans have more health problems than any other color Doberman. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. These are all actual “facts” BTW We visit our vet often. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and it’s always time for someone’s check up or booster shots

What I find truly aweful about this entire string of comments to dates back to July of 2008 is the fact that there is so much venom and passion about the z factor dobies but it’s all a senseless argument.

December 11th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isn’t a terrible act. You’re a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. People like you need to be shot.

That is most definitely venom and passion. Realistically, none of this makes a difference. I’ve owned nothing but dobermans for 30 years and I have owned and rescused every color, including the z factor whites. I have seen heathly specimens of ALL of the colors and I’ve seen all of the colors have health or temperament issues. Any of my sickly pooches see the vet often and my healthy ones visit the vet twice a year for check ups and boosters. I’ve had them live to be 15 and some only make it to 4 or 5. Killing white pups at birth doesn’t remove the z factor from the line, which is clearly evident. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. If you don’t understand what I’m talking about, reasearch the original european bulldogs. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. This will continue to happen regardless of how many people are advocates for or against a particular trait.

What would actually be beneficial is if all of the passionate people that felt the need to express their explosive opinions on this article actually got together and tried to make an argument collectively to have the dobermans removed from the aggressive dog lists that affect housing. Perhaps if people quit trying to stop what every one is doing and started promoting responsible pet ownership, first and foremost, maybe more people would be able to enjoy the breed.

to clear up the debate on albino dobermans. “The white doberman pinscher was created from inbreeding and are considered partial albino dobermans.” This statement does NOT say “all PARTIAL albino dobermans are created from inbreeding.” nor does state “all white dobermans are FULL albino.” Any animal created from inbreeding is prone to health issues. Also, the skin/eye color isn’t a qualifying factor for albinism just a sign of the trait. Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact.

You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isn’t a terrible act. You’re a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. People like you need to be shot.

What about the thyroid condition that Dobe’s get? It almost kllled my dog and I was not told what to watch out for..Needless to say she and my Mom take the same pill, lucky for me.

As an answer to Sara and all others who think white is cool and don’t believe websites like http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm

Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. ….. if there is something wrong with it, it’s not because of its color.

No. the dogs aren’t genetical cripples because of the color. the color is just one, if very obvious, sign that there is something wrong. not the cause, no, but a symptom of a cause. the cause is called interbreeding.

to begin with, all breeders regardless of the creature they breed should start thinking about what they do: the modify little helpless lifes and cause much suffering.

do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? or a sheppherd dog or a wiener?

In my eyes, it’s a crime to nature to breed anything like that. It disgusts me deeply. I am living with a little companion that is pure bred, that should be POOR BREAD!

Also there are some white champions in schutzhund as well as obedience and agility course do your research like i said

Ok to all the white haters DO YOUR RESEARCH! Whites have been around for a very long time! The only reason you didnt see them until recently was because breeders culled them drowned them or broke their necks as soon as they were born. You people that are for that are disgusting and as for the health problems duh people watch your breeders inbred dogs do have health problems no matter what the color and as for the dpca they only have bad things to say about the whites because they are disgusting and kill the whites to i have done extensive research as far as even going thru old records registrations and clippings they descended from greyhounds as well as multiple other breeds do your research before you say people are disgusting for breeding whites you are disgusting for helping in the bad rap they get and in getting killed at birth for it none of you are true dog lovers

Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans.

I’ve been reading the whole situation about the albino dobermans. I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. An owner of an Albino should realize that they need to spay or neuter the animal as soon as possible. I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. With the AKC you will know if the doberman has the possibility of having the recessive trait due to the Z attached to the end of the registration number. Also if you purchase an albino doberman you are getting ripped off. When you purchase puppies the price is based on quality of desired traits. So champions and show winner puppies will cost more than you pet quality doberman. So if you go by that logic albinos are free since it cant even be showed at competitions. well those are my to bits.

oh and Dobermans are the best dogs in the world 🙂

Joan thanks for helping this dobe 🙂

As far as food for upset stomachs, usually vets recommend something like plain rice and chicken. You can easily make this yourself or call a few vets for other suggestions.

I didn’t buy a white Dobe but I did just adopt one when our local shelter had to be evacuated and she needed somewhere to go for a few days and I just couldn’t bring her back. She’s very sweet and affectionate about 6 month old. her eyes are sensitive to the sun and she does seem to have a somewhat sensitive stomach.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what to feed her??She starts her puppy training tonight!

People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible.

To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs — you are an idiot. So what if it was, so what if all breeds came about that way? For centuries man has made MANY, MANY dog breeds, and so what if they were interbred? Why should we try to start a new color to a breed we ALREADY have, and make the white dobies we have now suffer with genetic/health problems so that MAYBE one day the white dobie gene pool will be dilluted enough so that they only have the same health problems as the other colored dobermans?

WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones — YOU ARE A DISGRACE.

ok, not all white dobes are unhelthy. i have an albino dob and a black on they both get the same food and go to the dog park 4 times a week and my white one is more helthy then my black and tan

Hi, again does anyone know of a breeder with blue and tan pups in the UK?

O”k this is crazy! i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color.

I am not intowhite vs. albino thing but i had a blue with skinproblems bt he was my dog. my first time breeding a dobe i got black, red, fawn, white and cream. and this was n the warly 80’s. I want all the colors i may breed i may not breed, but as with any thing line breeding can cause problems. But let us think about this line breeding. In the begining there was only adam and eve…..they had kids one died so how do we have billions of people if we did not practice inceset at one time should we have stopped because one of us had 6 fingers, lighter skin, stomach problems, or even had multiple births? I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should….should i be assisted with death because of it? if my husband has alergies and so do i should we not have children? Yes i agree dont breed for a color (but i do want a white) but for temperment and health i have seen dobies that are just ill tempered in any color. No i dont want a dog that has temper problems but i like the varitiey of colors. I realy think breeding 2 whites is where the problem comes in. In my opinion if yo decide to breed the it should be a “z” to a “non-z” this is just me and i know that somebody will chew me out behind it but “we” all humans come from 2 people. and vet bill are just that vet bill make a payment arrangment or start paying the vet before yu get the dobie and have a credit before the health issues arrise or pet health insurance

Breeding white dobermans is like defecating in your own gene pool. Except it’s all our gene pool to share. How much pain is tolerated so someone can have a “cool” looking dog? It’s ignorance of the worst kind. common sense be damned.

I grew up with black and tan dobermans from the age of 3, I now have a beautiful fawn and tan called Senya who literally stops traffic! I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. Does anyone know of a reputable blue and tan breeder in the UK as I don’t believe shipping a puppy from the states is good.

i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow?

But to everyone that has question about wanting to buy one i just like to say the are special its like having a special child they cant see good in sun light late afternoon best for him’and to those that say put them down do you put special children down!

I have a beautiful loving white dobe, he is very healthy and weights in at a nice 92 his skin is good

i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise

you are forgetting one thing

Dobermanns where breed from Weimaraners

So Isabella color and the variations- it is totally normal considering this )))))

possibly the most frustrating comment thread in history… all I have to say is this – first – the dogs that exist, I’m sure they’re all wonderful. I’m not for one second saying they’re not great dogs and I’m sure you love them. I’m a trainer & I deal with head cases and dogs bred for looks that are nothing but looks all the time. Regardless of anything else – it is a well documented FACT that these white “Dobermans” are predestined for medical and/or mental issues at a shockingly high percentage compared to all other colors. Any reputable Dobe breeder will react with horror at the idea of continued or purposed breeding of these poor dogs. If at some point the color can come about without promoting bad health and temperament, then that’s great. I don’t want to see an outstanding breed tarnished by this uneducated, irresponsible behavior. It’s despicable. Please, it’s been said before in this thread – you are online – use google, educate yourself about this subject. You’ll see for yourself the conclusion and stance that the Doberman community has taken on this.

I am proud to say I own a white doberman male one of the best i have ever had as a companion I also have kids and he thinks he is one of them. He has had no health problems very easy trained. As far as the akc lots of dogs that ar registered with them now did not start out with them they accept new breeds all the time. Myself I dont like akc I would rather deal with A.P.R.I. any day they dont want to break your bank every time you deal with them. I have had alot of dobermans over the years all colors the color does not make the dog what makes the dog is how you raise it train it love it and socialize them. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what.

Hello Michael, I too am not a breeder/trainer but I am now on dobe number 3 and have worked with them as security dogs. I would say it’s do-able with certain preparation.

My advice is to start with a doberman that has excellent genetics/temperament. When you visit a breeder, ask to see the mother and father to judge their “friendliness” and get references. Also when you see a wonderfully behaved dobe in public, ask the owner what breeder it’s from. Then of course laying a good foundation of basic obedience is essential, that’s fine if someone else teaches the basics but when the pup comes home to you it needs to feel confidence and trust that you’re the alpha leader now. Some people are better at this than others and some dogs (regardless of breed) are easier to train than others. There will of course be some adjustment as the dog learns what’s expected in it’s new house. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. As far as going from a one person house to a family environment this is doable if the dog is socialized around children. This socialization needs to continue even after puppy-hood on a consistent basis. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. Use it or loose it.

If you regularly have visitors over to the house, this should do. The dog should respect who the alpha leader/you decide is allowed into your house or “pack”. Hope this helps with your decision making.

I am not a dog breeder or trainer, nor have I too much experience raising dogs. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them.

I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself.

So my question is this- If I send my puppy to a very nice behavioral/ obedience/ training school, how well will my Doberman re-integrate into the household?

A second question- I am single with no kids, if I get married and have kids, how is the Doberman’s temperment with learning to live with more people after probably a few years with just me?

About 15 yrs ago when I still lived in the US (Virginia) I was introduced to a breeder of white Dobes. He claimed because of the blue eyes that they were not albinos and had a fair amount of references from happy owners who claimed they had no uncommon problems. HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites.

If I ever have a white it will be a rescue. I would not buy one and encourage their breeding. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. Personally I think the standard colors are quite beautiful but then I’m a bit biased as my “Princess” is a red.

thankyou Anthony, we need to do what’s best for the breed in the long term and I’m pretty sure Mr. Louis Dobermann did not want the white dobermans entering the lineage.

i think that we should do what is best for the breed . it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . if these dogs , and i say if mind you have more health , and behaviour problems than the other dobermans please dont breed these white dogs . please dont make more problems than the breed already has ! just because you think they look cute does not mean that the dog is comfortable when his health problems persist and flair up . it seems like common sense that you should never ever breed a white doberman ! on the othe hand i think that they do have a right to live if you the owner can afford all the high vet bills than you can enjoy your white , albino dibe as your pet . remember please dont be a moron and breed these dogs ever !

Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. Not only is the white Doberman not albino, but ALL health problems that have been found in white dobermans can be found in other colors as well except for skin sensitivity which is found in all short haired white dogs. The white Doberman is not an inbred retard but a beautiful color variation of the Doberman breed.

that tan black the tan brown and the white doberman are nice looking 🙂 im getting one soon

I think it needs to be said… that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesn’t accept them.

its not that they are bad dogs… yall need to get off your high horses… just understand that as far as breed standard is concerned they are frowned upon…

everyone is taking offense to that… why?

It’s just a fact… AKC doesn’t want them in the gene pool…. standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are… furthering a trait that isn’t considered “correct” (yeah … if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. I love my dobes the way they are… I stick to breed standard, so as not to change the breed, and possibly further the health problems so many have….

my first dobe was white, I rescued him, he was def, and blind in one eye, as well he was a fear biter, he passed at only 3 years of age due to cancer… some people get lucky with health issues… I was informed of problems and gave home the best home I could.

I also understand that just because they are here doesn’t mean you should TRY to breed them. if they POP up, that’s one thing… but don’t be an irresponsible breeder and try for a dog that will diminish the breed standard.

they are all incredible dogs… just be responsible.

stupid is real common around here eh?

My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. Ya’ll need to learn how to take care of dogs and shut up.

what color puppies will a blue female doberman and a black and tan male doberman most likely produce? just curious. thanks

wow…i totally agree with flower. It’s like saying you dont like people of colour. What does it matter what colour a dog is. People adopt children from other countries and still love them the same. It’s just the colour of the dog……HEllo it’s still a DOBERMAN! I have one of every colour and i don’t see the difference they play the same, love the same, eat the same, and bark the same.

I have a Blue doberman, white doberman and Black and Tan Doberman and I think the white and blue are better dogs then the black and tan. The blue and white are both puppies from are black and tans it is in there back ground so what are you trying to say these puppies don`t deserve to live what kind of animal lover are you You know who you are

i have a dobe,her father is black and his mother is red.how did my dobe becomes golden brown?i mean pure golden brown.i searched the web but i can’t find answers…please someone give ideas about this…thanks.

For those who say albino’s have red eyes, are very misinformed. Albinism is a congenital disorder characterized by the complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or defect of an enzyme involved in the production of melanin. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. These dogs eyes are quite large and thus produces enough pigment to lend opacity to the eye, often colouring the iris pale blue. However, there are cases in which the eyes of an albinistic animal appear red or purple, depending on the amount of pigment present. Some albino animals do have red or pink eyes because of the lack of pigmentation, what you are seeing the the blood behind their eyes.

Not all white dobermans will have skin issues, and other health issues. But most of them will. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky.

I have a fawn doverman she turned three months yesterday her name is clare

Anyone who wants to buy an albino doberman, please visit the Doberman Pincher Club of America and read on the Albino Doberman. http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm The website also has a lot of information for anyone wanting information about the Dobermans. The Albino doberman is NOT a WHITE doberman. There is no such thing as a white doberman. If you have an Albino you should love it like you would any dog. However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are “rare”.

White dobermans came from 1 dog…I repeat…1 dog…whos children were repeatedly bred back to her until more were produced.

AKC registered the first one…it is a purebred…but it is not allowed to show…just because it says AKC doesn’t make it right.

Bottom line…its irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. Its not fair to the animals first and foremost. Second its not fair to the unknowing animal lover out there who ends up with said unhealthy animal.

Dobermans are beautiful…proud…noble…intelligent dogs and deserve the best we can give them…and breeding them to be sickly and have health problems is NOT the best we can give them.

Shame on anyone who does.

Have some bad news for people that are upset about white dobies being the result of inbreeding. Brace yerselves for it… ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. Take for example the Bullmastiff. Today an incredibly regal and majestic dog. However we can trace it’s roots back to the late 19th century whence it was bred to halt poachers on gamekeepers land.They tried the English Mastiff; Too passive: poachers got away. They tried the Bulldogge (the original, not the chunky lil chap with respiratory problems that people are ga-ga over today); Too vicious: tore the poachers to shreds before they could hang them as an example. VOILA. They interbred the two and then bred the offspring (for several generations, I might add) and out popped what is in my opinion the finest canine ever produced. The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. That is why the AKC registers them (albeit with the distinguishable Z designation much in part to the decrying of folks whonm think they are much smarter than they are in the area of all things wise and wonderful). Of course, as is the case with ANY short haired whit dog, there are limitatipns to sun exposure, much the same as with fair-haired humans-They both sunburn easily. No-brainer. In the next 15 to 20 years, folks will be bucked off of their high-horses, and the Z designation will be dropped in the AKC registration, and people will be free to love these animals as they should and not revile.

Furthermore, whilst I don’t as of yet own one… I think I shall purchase one just to chagrin the louts that scream so loudly about topics such as this, illegal immigrants taking their jobs, and globak warming being an utter farce.

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The white coloring of a Doberman IS the result of a genetic mutation. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. From what i have learned over the years, and from my families history with dobermans, the coloring can be an issue. It is not accepted by AKC for show (though the dog can still be registered and bred- although this practice is frowned upon) Although labeling the dogs albino or even partial is a common misunderstanding. The genetic mutation that occurs to create the white coat is not the same of that that occurs in albino dogs. There is alot of controversy on this subject. And all anyone can do is take the best care of their animal as possible. : )

I have a comment about the white doberman puppies. I have owned a white puppy because my red female and black and tan male made 4 white puppies. The white puppies are not a MUTATION GENE that has never been proven and is a lie. The white doberman I kept has never had any health problems in the four years I have owned her. The vet told me the breeders usually put the white puppies to sleep and any animal lover would not do such a thing. The vet could not give me any reason not to keep the puppies or give them away to people who might want or even to sale the puppies. If white dobermans were not meant to exist God would not have produced them. The white doberman is obedient and beautiful also good with my children. She has always lived inside out of the sun. People should not judge what God has made just because they are wrong.

I own a white Dobeman “Tierra” who is now 7 years old. She is the best dog that I have ever owned. She does not have any health problems what so ever! Great skin and coat, awesome temperment, etc… As with any dog, problems are caused by poor breeding. Research your breeder!

The breeding of the albino Doberman is disgusting and anyone who supports this interbreeding is also disgusting! And I say albino because it is not a colour it is the complete opposite a lack of colour I would never entertain a breeder of the albino Doberman and those breeders who describe the dog as rare and desirable are idiots that have no interest in healthy dogs just lining their pockets it makes me feel sick. there is no need to look into the genetics of the dog to prove the breeding is all wrong just looking at the dog should be proof enough. I am a veterinary nurse and kennel club registered Doberman breeder in the UK. Breeding of the fawn and blue is accepted by kennel club although most breeders do not breed these colours or see them as questionable but the so called “white” is a massive NO NO! The dogs are victim to bad breeding which is upsetting and should be stopped.

Hello to all, my family and myself have bred and raised Dobermans for over 40 years. We mainly have had Black, Red and Isabella colored Dobermans, although we have a 3 year old White bitch named Saint. White dobermans are actually light cream main colored with white markings. They do have blue eyes and excellent eye sight. Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. Her eyes are a little sensitive to bright light until they adjust. She has had no health problems and we will be breeding her. I recommend anyone buying a White Doberman to search for AKC registered dogs.

umm yes albinos can have blue eyes because the lack of pigmentation leads the iris to look opaque, therefore a pale icy blue.

I have had dobes for over 20 years blks, blue, and now white, i must be lucky because my wht dobe is a big lovable dog with no health problems. people are intitled to their own opinons though. i will admit he does squent in direct sunlight but so does every human being. i will also say that certain people should’nt be allowed to breed either (like know it alls that are never happy with their own lives) but they do. good people raise good dogs. a colored or non colored dogs are only going to be as well behaved as the owners. by the way you will have some health issues with all animals they are a living thing that takes just as much care as most children

I have a albino he is the best dog that i ever had . So smart and loves attention. Knock on wood no problems for him. I do believe that they do have a soft stomach . So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them

In most mammals (including humans) true albinos have pink eyes because they have no pigment at all. The genes are often recessive: a parent carrying a gene won’t show any sign that they have it. It takes two copies of the gene to be an albino.

In horses, there’s something called partial albinism. A horse with partial albinism has a cream-coloured coat, white mane and tail and blue eyes. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue.

To be a partial albino, the horse needs two copies of the partial albino gene. If the horse has only one gene, it makes the underlying colour paler. A red (also called sorrel or chestnt) horse becomes pale gold (also called palomino or isobella).

I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. Ie, If a black dog has one partial ablbinism gene, it becomes blue. If it has two, it bcomes white.

If a red dog has one partial albinism gene, it becomes isabella/fawn. If it has two, it becomes white.

What do the breeders think?

Nick I think all dogs are pack animals that don’t like being left alone, this includes dobes. Personally I work long shifts and what works for me is that I have two dobes to keep each other company. They get alot of play time together running and wrestling in the fenced yard (like 3-4 hours) then when it’s time for me to leave for work they are so tired, they naturally will fall asleep inside the house. Also don’t give them free rein of the house, maybe just the kitchen or a bedroom, just in case they get into trouble if bored, (use a baby gate). Kongs with peanut butter are great too, but these only last so long. Hope this helps you decide.

My name is nick. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. plus i have always wanted a bigger dog that i could run around and play with in the back yard. i have been reading up on the breed since i have never owned one, and have found alot of good information about them. however one thing that i have seen on most of the websites is that they do not like to be left alone for long periods of time, even in fenced in back yards. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. my biggest fear is the dog getting and then him getting into mischef while im at work. plus i want to keep him as happy as i can once i get one. i want to know what i can do to make his time better when he has to be alone. are there any kinds of toys or things i can leave in that would give him the stimulation that i have heard they need while im at work? let me no what you do for your dobes while your away. thank you.

Regarding the albinism debate and eye color: albinism can be partial in mammals (and also birds, even wild ones), and can come from various mutations in the genome. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. The animal is still considered an albino, however, because it carries an albinistic mutation. Sometimes the mutation is harmful, sometimes it is not. Siamese cats are a classic example of a harmless albino mutation; they are genetically albino, but the mutation only affects the hair, and it is temperature-dependent. The mutation producing the albino color only functions at high temperature, hence the hair close to the body (where temps are warm) is albino, and the hair at the cooler extremities (ears, face, tail) reverts to the default color of the cat (usually the classic dark color, but sometimes orange, etc. based on what color genes are dominant). If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. Spontaneous albino mutations can potentially occur in any mammal (i.e. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare.

I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. He is very gentle and extremely good with children. But I will say that i have never spent so much money on vet bills on any dog I’ve ever owned in my life. Not only has he got sensitive skin, he has stomach problems as well. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. I was not aware of the health problems white dobermans have and if i had I may not have gotten him. But health problems or no, like I said he is my baby, I love him sooo much and I wouldnt trade him for the world. Even if he is expensive to keep healthy.

Sarah: I have to agree, albinos have red eyes not blue…so that kind of confuses me (Only on this subject because I wanted a little bit of advise before getting a white Doberman. They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts.) The only reason I am writing is because as I was reading through I found one message that said “get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs” writen by “miller”! I found that message not helpful in the least, being a person just looking for information on a dog I like. As far as what information you’ve given, I believe there is no such thing as a bad dog but there is such thing as a bad owner. Treat them right and the will do the same. So see “miller” to make my point your message was not only informationless to me and everyone else, it was also showing how much of a dog lover you are not,If you were you would be giving information on the health issues and such like everyone else. Maybe you should think about that before commenting on another animal site.

RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. The skin is Red/pink not the eyes. yes they are blue but that does not mean the dog is “white” it is ALBINO, there is no such thing as a white Doberman. Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. Anyone who tries to sell an Albino Doberman has an inferrior breeding program, they are culls. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. They cannot be shown and you will NEVER EVER find a Champion Albino Doberman.

There is a problem with the white dobe. It is born out of inbreeding. Ppl should not be breeding these animals. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. But it is not good for the breed’s future to perpetuate this mutation. They have KNOWN health issues far beyond the regular dobe. If you are uninformed pls get informed before speaking on the subject. Ppl who breed these animals are only concerned about earning $$ and not the animals.

As for good foods there are so many nowadays. I use Innova Red Meat food for my dog and healthy ppl food and he is healthy as a horse.

there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. they are not albino their eyes are blue. albinos have pink eyes. they are just another color variation such as the red or blue. if there is something wrong with it, it’s not because of its color.

check out the website dogfoodanalysis.com

It should help you out.

i have a question i have a blue dover and i want to know whats good to giveum so they can be strong,i’m giving him yukanuba what do u request for him thanks

get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs

The albinos are very hard to take care of i wish people would quit breeding them. I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!!

The dogs in this are really beautiful. The one in white what type of doby is this.

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A well-conditioned Boxer is an awesome sight. A male can stand as high as 25 inches at the shoulder, females a little shorter. Their muscles ripple beneath their short, tight-fitting coat. The dark brown eyes and wrinkled forehead give the face an alert, curious look. Boxers move like the athletes they’re named for: smooth and graceful, but powerful. The coat can be fawn (tan to mahogany-red) or brindle (kind of like tiger stripes), with white markings.

Personality: Fun-loving, bright, active and loyal

Energy Level: Very Active; Boxers are strong, quick, busy dogs who need plenty of exercise; they enjoy challenges, both physical and mental

Good with Children: Yes

Good with other Dogs: With Supervision

Shedding: Seasonal

Grooming: Occasional

Trainability: Responds Well

Height: 23-25 inches (male), 21.5-23.5 inches (female)

Weight: 65-80 pounds (male), females are about 15 pounds less than male

Life Expectancy: 10-12 years

Barking Level: Barks When Necessary

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The ideal Boxer is a medium-sized, square-built dog of good substance with short back, strong limbs, and short, tight-fitting coat. His well-developed muscles are clean, hard, and appear smooth under taut skin. His movements denote energy. The gait is firm yet elastic, the stride free and ground-covering, the carriage proud. Developed to serve as guard, working, and companion dog, he combines strength and agility with elegance and style. His expression is alert and his temperament steadfast and tractable.

The chiseled head imparts to the Boxer a unique individual stamp. It must be in correct proportion to the body. The broad, blunt muzzle is the distinctive feature, and great value is placed upon its being of proper form and balance with the skull.

The beauty of the head depends upon the harmonious proportion of muzzle to skull. The blunt muzzle is 1/3 the length of the head from the occiput to the tip of the nose, and 2/3 the width of the skull. The head should be clean, not showing deep wrinkles (wet). Wrinkles typically appear upon the forehead when ears are erect, and are always present from the lower edge of the stop running downward on both sides of the muzzle. Skull - The top of the skull is slightly arched, not rounded, flat, nor noticeably broad, with the occiput not overly pronounced. The forehead shows a slight indentation between the eyes and forms a distinct stop with the topline of the muzzle. The cheeks should be relatively flat and not bulge (cheekiness), maintaining the clean lines of the skull as they taper into the muzzle in a slight, graceful curve.

Neck - Round, of ample length, muscular and clean without excessive hanging skin (dewlap). The neck should have a distinctly arched and elegant nape blending smoothly into the withers.

The back is short, straight, muscular, firm, and smooth. The topline is slightly sloping when the Boxer is at attention, leveling out when in motion. Body - The chest is of fair width, and the forechest well-defined and visible from the side. The brisket is deep, reaching down to the elbows; the depth of the body at the lowest point of the brisket equals half the height of the dog at the withers. The ribs, extending far to the rear, are well-arched but not barrel-shaped. The loins are short and muscular. The lower stomach line is slightly tucked up, blending into a graceful curve to the rear. The croup is slightly sloped, flat and broad. The pelvis is long, and in females especially broad. The tail is set high, docked, and carried upward. An undocked tail should be severely penalized.

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The shoulders are long and sloping, close-lying, and not excessively covered with muscle (loaded). The upper arm is long, approaching a right angle to the shoulder blade. The elbows should not press too closely to the chest wall nor stand off visibly from it. The forelegs are long, straight, and firmly muscled, and, when viewed from the front, stand parallel to each other. The pastern is strong and distinct, slightly slanting, but standing almost perpendicular to the ground. The dewclaws may be removed. Feet should be compact, turning neither in nor out, with well-arched toes.

Short, shiny, lying smooth and tight to the body.

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Expression -Intelligent and alert. Eyes - Dark brown in color, frontally placed, generous, not too small, too protruding, or too deep set. Their mood-mirroring character, combined with the wrinkling of the forehead, gives the Boxer head its unique quality of expressiveness. Third eyelids preferably have pigmented rims. Ears - Set at the highest points of the sides of the skull, the ears are customarily cropped, cut rather long and tapering, and raised when alert. If uncropped, the ears should be of moderate size, thin, lying flat and close to the cheeks in repose, but falling forward with a definite crease when alert.

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The hindquarters are strongly muscled, with angulation in balance with that of the forequarters. The thighs are broad and curved, the breech musculature hard and strongly developed. Upper and lower thighs are long. The legs are well-angulated at the stifle, neither too steep nor over-angulated, with clearly defined, well "let down" hock joints. Viewed from behind, the hind legs should be straight, with hock joints leaning neither in nor out. From the side, the leg below the hock (metatarsus) should be almost perpendicular to the ground, with a slight slope to the rear permissible. The metatarsus should be short, clean, and strong. The Boxer has no rear dewclaws.

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Good nutrition for Boxers is very important from puppyhood to their senior years.

The Boxer’s short, shiny and smooth-lying coat requires little grooming.

Very Active; Boxers are strong, quick, busy dogs who need plenty of exercise; they enjoy physical & mental challenges

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Introduction

Like dog owners everywhere, we love our dogs. Outside of an obvious physical defect, deaf dogs are just your normal, everyday dogs. They do have a better excuse for not listening than most dogs, but they live in our houses, sleep on our beds, play with our children and ride in our cars. They go for walks, chase balls, bark at squirrels (yes, they do bark), and at the end of the day, they collapse in front of the TV with the rest of the family. They share our lives, and are our companions and friends.

A person who has just discovered that their dog is deaf (or is considering the adoption of a deaf dog) will often be faced with the negative warnings of well meaning friends and misinformed experts. Too many spread horror stories about aggressive, biting, deaf dogs that couldn't be trusted or trained, and would eventually break our hearts. These pages (and others on this site) are here to counteract this misinformation.

This FAQ is here to provide information and support for those who find themselves involved with a deaf dog, either as an owner, breeder, trainer, rescue group, or medical professional. It covers many of the most commonly asked questions about deaf dogs, and is continued on the Myths page.

What Causes Deafness in Dogs?

What causes a dog to lose its hearing? A lot of the same things that cause hearing loss in humans. Genetic defects can cause a dog to be born deaf; this is known as congenital deafness. A dog can also lose its hearing due to an ear infection, injury to the ear, or may experience gradual (or sudden) hearing loss due to old age. Exposure to loud noise can cause temporary or permanent hearing loss, as can certain drugs.

The most common cause of congenital deafness is pigment related. (There is some talk about a recessive gene as well, but most researchers do not believe this is the case.) Some dogs have white coats, but still have pigmented skin (Samoyeds, West Highland Terriers, and White German Shepherds fall into this category). Although they have white fur, they have black noses and eye rims (their fur is actually not pure white, but a very light buff color). Other dogs normally have colored coats, and white trim (this includes Dalmatians; the white is actually not their real coat color, the "spots" are). The "trim" comes from areas of unpigmented (pink) skin, which produces white hair. If there is unpigmented skin in the inner ear, the nerve endings atrophy and die off in the first few weeks of the puppy's life, resulting in deafness. Please note that you cannot tell the color of hairs in the inner ear by looking at any visible part of the dog's ears (including the hair around the ear canal). Although many dogs with white hair on their ears will be deaf, many deaf dogs have colored ears as well.

Hearing loss affecting both ears is called Bilateral Deafness. A bilaterally deaf dog is completely (or mostly) deaf in both ears. Hearing loss occurring in, or affecting only one ear, is called Unilateral Deafness. A unilaterally deaf dog has hearing loss in only one ear and has full hearing in the other ear.

How Can You Determine If Your Dog is Deaf?

The only way to know for sure if your dog is deaf is with a BAER test (see below). If you are unable (or unwilling) to have this test done, it is usually possible to make an accurate determination by observing the dog or talking to your vet and other "dog professionals." Most of us never have any doubts.

Some of the early signs (while the pup is still in the litter) may include the deaf pup that plays more aggressively or bites too hard because it is not deterred by the other puppy's yelp of pain. Once weaned, a deaf puppy may not wake up at feeding times unless it feels vibrations, or is bumped by a littermate.

In the home, you may notice that it doesn't respond to being called (or other noises), when sleeping, too far away, or not looking at you. Sometimes it bites too hard when playing with the family. (Yes, it is possible to teach a deaf dog to have a soft mouth.) Just as in the litter, if you own another dog, it can be difficult to immediately determine if the pup is deaf as it will notice what the other dog does and tag along. The following are some simple tests you can try at home if you suspect that your dog is deaf. Remember that it is almost impossible to test a unilaterally deaf (deaf in one ear) dog at home with any certainty.

Keep in mind that when doing these tests, the louder the sound, the stronger the vibration. (Remember how a stereo can rattle the house?) Any vibration or air current that the dog detects can, and probably will, get a response that makes you think that the dog can hear. A unilaterally deaf dog should hear the sounds, but not be able to tell where they originated. It may look around (even looking away from the source) to see where the sound came from. While trying these tests, be sure your dog is not looking in your direction, or in the direction of the distraction. You can also try a test when your dog is asleep. If necessary, have someone hold the dog facing away from you.

Tests You Can Do At Home

Jangle keys, a rattle, or a can of coins

Squeak a toy (be sure that air from the toy doesn't hit the dog - try it behind your back)

Call your dog in a normal voice - try yelling

Clap your hands (you should be far enough away so that he doesn't feel air movement)

Whistle or (if you're musically challenged) blow a whistle

Turn on a vacuum cleaner (be sure it's far enough away from the dog so that the vibrations or airflow don't reach him)

Bang two pots together (be careful of air vibrations reaching your dog)

Ring a bell or have someone ring your telephone or doorbell

Remember that if the dog is unilaterally deaf, you will get a different response depending on which side it is sleeping on or from what angle the sound has been directed. Some deaf dogs may hear very low or very high-pitched sounds. They may perk up, look around and have an expression on their face that asks, "What was that?" This could be an advantage if it's true for your dog - try using a dog whistle and see if you get a response to it.

If your dog doesn't hear normal sounds at normal volumes, chances are that it is deaf. Ask your vet or trainer if you feel the need for a second opinion. Like we said before, the only way to know for certain is to have the dog BAER tested.

What is BAER testing?

A BAER test is the only 100% reliable method for determining that a dog is deaf (or for measuring the extent of its hearing loss). BAER (pronounced "bear") stands for "Brainstem Auditory Evoked Response" and is a procedure using computers to record the electrical activity of the brain in response to sound stimulation. This is the same test used to check the hearing of human infants, and measures the same range of hearing. This means that the test does not measure the full range of canine hearing, but it will tell you if your dog has hearing within the normal human range (some dogs will test as "deaf," but will still be able to hear very high pitches).

The test is not painful and can be performed on any dog over six weeks of age. (A puppy's ear canals don't open until they are about two weeks old.) Sedation is usually not necessary, but some dogs (especially puppies) don't like being restrained, or having wires hang from their face, so it can be performed while the dog is sedated. A clicking sound is directed into the ear through a foam insert, earphones, or headphones and the brain's response is recorded. Each ear is tested individually and the test generally lasts for only 10 to 15 minutes. You can see pictures of puppies being tested, and what the printout results look like at this site - Dalghani Tibetan Terriers - Deafness and BAER testing.

Since BAER testing is only available at select facilities and can be expensive, many people choose to rely on their own experiences with the dog and the opinion of their veterinarian in making the determination. For their own peace of mind, or because they are breeding a "high-risk" dog (like the Dalmatian), others insist on this testing. A complete list of BAER testing facilities can be found on Dr. George Strain's web page, www.lsu.edu/deafness/baersite.htm. (Dr. Strain has done a lot of research on the causes of canine deafness, and has found a few of the answers. Unfortunately, most of his writings recommend euthanizing deaf dogs. This is an opinion, not based on research, and should be taken as such.)

In general, that is the only test that a dog can't cheat on. In spite of the rumors that deaf dogs are handicapped and can't function normally, they are some of the most adaptable and inventive creatures we know. As puppies, they learn to queue off the actions of their littermates. They are very attuned to movements and changes in light. They recognize vibrations (which is all that sound really is) and they sense the change in airflow or pressure that results from opening or closing a door. The same is true for dogs whose loss of hearing is gradual because of age or a prolonged illness. They just never admit to us that they cannot hear. Congenitally deaf dogs don't know that they are missing anything. How could those cute puppies be anything less than perfect?

Do Deaf Dogs Have Special Health Considerations?

For the most part, no. There is only one special health consideration that applies to all deaf dogs. You need to find a veterinarian who will believe, as you do, that your dog deserves to live. Unfortunately, there are still vets who believe what they are told by the various breed clubs and other sources, and who will not be supportive of you and your dog.

A concern for many deaf dogs is sunburn. Any dogs (not just deaf ones) with a predominantly white coat frequently have pink skin which is prone to sunburn (noses in particular). This is especially true if the dog also has a short coat, but even longer coated dogs will generally have shorter hair on their faces. It is important to minimize their exposure to intense sunlight, and you may want to consider sunscreen. Look for one meant for people with sensitive skin (or babies) and preferably unscented. You can sometimes find sun block made just for dogs. The thicker, stick-type works quite well on noses and other sensitive areas.

Some deaf dogs are homozygous merles (both of their parents were merle dogs, and they inherited a copy of the gene from each parent). For a description of merle, see 'Is My Dog An Albino? (Or "Why Are Dogs White?")' below. There are many breeds affected by this, including Australian Shepherds, Great Danes, Catahoula Leopard Dogs, Dachshunds, Shetland Sheep Dogs, and Border Collies. Mix-breed dogs can also be homozygous merles if both parents were merle in color. Homozygous merles, also called double merles, excessive whites and (inaccurately) lethal whites (this is considered a derogatory term by many people with double merles), are frequently mostly white in color.

Although you may hear otherwise, the only known health problems proven to be associated with being a homozygous merle have to do with hearing and vision. Stories abound about vague "internal organ" problems (including heart, liver, and pancreas), or allergies, or immune system problems, or a shortened life span. The fact of the matter is that many of their normally pigmented kindred suffer from the same problems (and if you do have a double merle with any of these problems, odds are that the littermates do as well - most living double merles do not come from breeders where health is a primary concern). Double merles can be deaf (not all are, though) because of the lack of pigment in their inner ear (see above for an explanation of the causes of deafness). It is possible for a dog with only one merle gene (heterozygous) to look just like a double (see below reasons for a dog to have excess white in its coat), but they will not have the eye problems (so if your dog's eyes do not show any defects, it probably is not a double).

Homozygous merles, whether deaf or not, may have a variety of eye defects. These can occur in any color eye, but are illustrated here in blue just because it is easier to see. The cells that grow to become eyes are located in the same place that color starts in the embryo (during early development). All of their other organs begin in a different location, and so are not affected by this genetic combination. Some of the eye problems are noticeable, such as an irregularly shaped pupil. Instead of being a normal round shape, this opening in the center of the iris may have spiky projections (called a "starburst" pupil) or jagged/irregular edges ("eccentric"). These conditions are not the same as colobomas, which can happen in a dog (or human) of any color or pattern. This condition can make their eyes very light sensitive if the pupil doesn't react to light as well as it should. Be aware that some dogs will have a halo of darker color around their pupil, which can resemble these last two conditions, so look closely to be sure of what you are seeing (and often it is best to get the opinion of an ophthalmologist ). Their pupils can also be off center ("subluxated"), where the pupil is not centered in the eye (usually it is lower than it should be). This doesn't seem to bother them unless the pupil is very low in the eye (just slightly off-center seems to be easier to cope with). Microphthalmia, or an abnormally small eye, is the most common eye defect seen in homozygous merles (this can vary from just noticeable to appearing to have no eye at all). Usually, the smaller the eye, the more of the third eyelid that is permanently visible. Other defects are within the eye and require the special equipment of a veterinary ophthalmologist to diagnose. Many dogs will have multiple eye defects, and most of those will have some visual loss, sometimes to the point of blindness. This may not be obvious to the casual observer as most dogs can compensate very well for their vision limitations, especially in a familiar environment. The defects are generally stable, so if a dog has functional vision, it will probably not change (unless affected by another condition).

As with any hearing dog, a deaf dog might go blind from a variety of causes, including old age, injury or disease unrelated to deafness. Whether their impairment started at birth like the homozygous merles or occurred later in life, deaf and blind dogs can lead happy lives in the right home. Special care must be taken to protect them from hazards they are unaware of and they require training techniques suited to their abilities. See our Other Links page for more information. Remember though, that not all double merles are deaf, and not all are blind (and very few are both). See an interesting observation about double merles at Clan Duncan Shetland Sheepdog Growl Pages, Seeing Double.

Is My Dog An Albino? (Or "Why Are Dogs White?")

Some people refer to mostly white deaf dogs as "albino" or "part-albino." The term albino is often used as if it just means "white," but the facts are somewhat more complicated. In actuality, there are degrees of albinism (although "part" albino, i.e. white with patches of full pigment, is not possible). A "complete" albino (pure white) has no pigment (not even skin spots). Their skin is a very pale pink, and their eyes are usually pink as well (this is called tyrosinase-negative). Even though this is what is usually thought of as albino, dogs with this genetic pattern are very rare, and likely to be deaf (since they have no pigment at all). There are other forms of albinism (called tyrosinase-positive) that are not really white (they will be an even all-over light gray or pale cream instead). The West Highland White Terriers and white Dobermans fall into this category. Since these dogs do have pigment, they are not usually deaf (see Causes of Deafness above.) To read more on this subject, see Coat Color Genetics (a bit technical, but albinism is discussed) or White Dobes (really technical).

There are many genetic factors that can cause a dog to have a lot of white in its coat (try looking at Dog Genetics Links On the Web for more information on various breeds). Many dogs will have more than one factor at work as well.

In Australian Shepherds, Dachshunds, some Great Danes, Corgis, Shetland Sheepdogs, Collies, Catahoulas, and others, it is caused by inheriting two Merle (Dapple) genes instead of one. Merle is not actually a color, it is a pattern (Merles can come in many different colors). Merle is a dominant gene, it is nearly always visible when the dog has it (if it were recessive, only dogs carrying 2 copies would be merled, and this is not the case). Having one copy of the Merle gene causes irregularly-shaped patches of color on a background that is a lighter shade of the original color. Merle can have many variations; some dogs will be mostly the original color with very little Merling, while others will have small patches of the original and be mostly Merled. The Merling can also vary from very light to almost as dark as the original color. Having 2 copies of the gene doubles this effect, and causes some of the coat to turn white (parents with a lot of white trim tend to produce double pups with more white than those with little to no white). Double Merles will not always be deaf. If the excess white does not affect inner ear pigmentation, they will be able to hear (or only have minimal hearing loss). See above Do Deaf Dogs Have Special Health Considerations? for more information on Double Merles.

Great Danes also have the Harlequin gene. The Harl gene changes a lot of the base coat (whatever color it may be) to white, with irregular splotches of the base coat color showing through. In essence, the Dane coat color is whatever it is (usually black, although other colors and patterns sometimes appear as well) and the Harl gene modifies where that color can appear. In order for the Harlequin gene to "work," the dog must also be carrying the Merle gene (it is possbile that Harlequin simple removes the Merling from the dog's coat, but this isn't known as a fact). A "Merlequin" might simply be Double Merle (no Harlequin), but it's also possible that the Harl gene has incompletely modified the Merle, and so the dog still shows some Merle. It is also possible that very lightly marked Harls are doubles with the Harlequin gene, but they could be singles with very little color left as well (this coloring could also be caused by a white trim gene, see S^ w below). There is still a lot that is not known about Harlequin.

In addition to the above, there are several types of white trim that can affect a dog's appearance. Each of these genes are listed separately, but since genes always come in pairs, some can (and will) double up, and there are other modifiers of coat pattern as well. (Note that these patterns are assumed to be separate genes, but this is not a proven fact yet.)

The first white color pattern called "Irish Spotting" (S^ i - typical "Lassie" white markings) that is not related to deafness (even when the dog has 2 copies of it), since it is very minimal and doesn't extend into the dog's ears. Besides Collies, it is also carried by the Boston Terrier and Basenji (to mention just a few).

The second white pattern is commonly seen in Beagles (and other hounds), Bulldogs, Cocker Spaniels and English Setters (and other breeds as well). It is called the Piebald Spotting Gene (S^ p - non-symmetrical random white pattern). This pattern does not always cause deafness, it is only a problem when the inner ear is missing pigment (see "What Causes Deafness in Dogs?" above).

Dalmatians, Boxers, Bull Terriers, Great Pyrenees, and possibly Mantle/Boston Great Danes (this is not known for certain) are examples of the Extreme White Spotting (or Extreme Piebald) Gene (S^ w ). When the other half of the gene pair is a solid, the dog will have a white blaze, collar, and white legs (known as "flashy" in Boxers). If two dogs with this pattern are bred, 25% of the pups will be almost all white (known as "pattern white," or "color headed white"). Sometimes these dogs will be deaf, and sometimes not, depending on where the pigment ends up. Dalmatians are homozygous for this gene (carry 2 copies), with the spots in the coat being caused by the ticking gene (which can combine with any of the other white trims as well).

So there are many ways for a dog to have more white in its coat than it should. Sometimes it is just a guess as to why a dog has the pattern that it does, and there is still a lot of research being done in this area.

Do I Need a Vibrating Collar?

Not unless you or the dog really wants one (the majority of deaf dogs and their people do just fine without them). The vibrating collar is a paging system for the dog and its owner. It is not the same as an electronic or shock collar. We recognize that the shock from these collars is (or can be) very mild, but it's not an approach we will recommend. After all, even though a static shock from someone scuffing their feet along the carpet is not "painful," it isn't pleasant either. We want to teach the dog to "check in" with us and we want that to always be a happy thing for the dog.

The biggest drawback to the vibrating collars currently available is their weight. The collars weigh between 2.3 to 7.8 oz (65g to 221g) and are really too heavy for smaller dogs (or puppies) to wear comfortably. Think about it: if the dog weighs only 20 lbs. (9 kgs), it would be like having a 2.3 pound (1 kg) weight around the neck of a 150 lb. (68kg) person. What fun would that be?

A vibrating collar does not really teach your dog to "do" anything. It is a cue to "look at me" or "watch me." It is an attention getter (like calling the dog's name) and if you haven't established good basic training with your dog, what will you do once you get its attention?

The collars available today come with a number of available features. If you choose to use one, be sure that it will fit with your planned usage and lifestyle. If it is a combination vibration/shock system, make sure that the shock setting can be turned off. Check the range and the collar's resistance to water. Many of the collars have a tone feature that may seem pretty senseless on a deaf dog. But, just like finding your misplaced keys or TV remote, the tone can serve a purpose if you need to track down a sleeping (or otherwise occupied) pet.

If you are interested in more information on vibrating collars, we have a page on Training With A Vibrating Collar as well as another with a List of Vibrating Collar choices.

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Kampfhund

A Kampfhund (German for "Attack Dog") is an enemy type appearing in Wolfenstein: The New Order and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood. Kampfhund is singular, while Kampfhunde is plural.

The New Order Edit

Kampfhunde are armored and genetically (later mechanically) augmented German Shepherds employed by the Nazi military as a type of attack canine. Armed with bodily augments and sharp teeth, they are fast on their feet and can close the distance between them and a detected player fairly quickly.

While pre-1960 models of the Kampfhund are regular dogs with simple alterations performed on them, the 1960 variant is nearly 100% mechanical save for the brain which is encased in an exoskeleton.

The New Colossus Edit

In America in 1961, the Nazis mostly use the Doberman Kampfhunde, similar to pre-1960's models, with slight modifications of the eyes of the Kampfunde, in the shape of cybernetic red eyes. Any other cybernetic implants are smoothly concealed with their body harnesses. They can mostly be seen escorting commanders. They also seem to be hightly resistant or immune to radioactivity, as they can be seen in New york, not affected at all.

Strategy Edit

Kampfhunde are highly vulnerable towards the Handgun 1946/60 and Throwing Knives, but will fall even more quickly to anything bigger.

Kampfhunde will not actively patrol an area during stealth, and will instead curl up and sleep on the floor where they are vulnerable to a takedown, knife throw or silenced pistol shot.

A slain Kampfhund corpse can be looted for small shards of armor.

Any shotgun can make quick work of groups of Kampfhunde. Do try to fire from the hip, however, as the high agility of a Kampfhund can make it difficult to get a consistent bead on them with the reduced mobility and spatial awareness of the ironsight mode.

A Kampfhund's main form of attack in addition to simple bites and scratches is a lunge followed by a direct mauling that will not stop until either the dog or the target is killed, though each hit deals relatively light damage and the dog itself is not hard to shake off. Mash the fire button when latched on to quickly stab the dog to death and minimize the damage taken.

Holding down the aim/fire left weapon button will jam BJ's arm into the Kampfhund's jaw to reduce damage. Even though this may seem counter-intuitive, it keeps the jaws away from anything important (face, neck, chest) while BJ counters with his knife.

Variants Edit

One of Deathshead's "pet projects", the Kampfhund is a German Shepherd that has been pumped full of chemicals and wrapped in steel body armor, it is fiercely aggressive and has a vicious bite.

This is the most common variant of the Kampfhund, being encountered many times throughout The Old Blood, the prologue of The New Order, and several more times after the timeskip.

After the war, General Deathshead enhanced the Kampfhund's design by creating a mechanized exoskeleton suit for its body and grafting a set of titanium jaws to its face. This beast of war is capable of biting through even the thickest of body armor. Its 1946 counterpart is still common even in this year.

Kampfhund 1960s are occasional finds throughout the later parts of The New Order.

Described by her handler as "the happiest dog in Germany", Greta is an unique albino Kampfhund owned by Kommandant Rudi Jäger. She is encountered along with Rudi shortly into the campaign of The Old Blood and several more times afterwards, culminating in a brief scuffle in the castle's anatomical theater where she has to be killed. Rudi will later try to kill Blazkowicz to avenge his pet.

With the exception of an unique texture, Greta behaves like any other Kampfhunde in the field.

After Wulfburg was contaminated with the unknown substance that turns dead people into Shamblers, two seemingly undead and flaming Kampfhunde can be fought shortly after exiting Pippa Shepherd's residence.

Only two of them are encountered throughout the game and are identical to their normal brethren in terms of performance and behavior.

Mexican Hairless Dog

UTILIZATION: Standard-Size: Watch-and Guard Dog

Miniature Size: Companion Dog.

CLASSIFICATION FCI: Group 5 Spitz and primitive Types

Section 6 Primitive Types

Without working trial.

BRIEF HISTORICAL SUMMARY: The origin of these dogs goes far back into history. Previously the natives ate their flesh which was highly prized. The breed was regarded as the earthly representative of the god “Xolotl”, from which his name obviously originates. His task was to accompany the souls of the dead to their eternal resting place. The breed is also known by the name “Mexican Hairless Dog”.

GENERAL APPEARANCE: A very attractive dog; his most important characteristic and peculiarity is the complete or almost complete lack of any hair, with a smooth and soft skin.

His body has harmonious proportions, chest is broad, rib cage roomy, limbs and tail long. His build is reminiscent of a Manchester Terrier.

IMPORTANT PROPORTIONS: Length of body in proportion to height at withers = 10 to 9, thus slightly longer than height at withers. Bitches may be a little longer than dogs. Dogs with long narrow bodies and short limbs are down graded in their assessment.

BEHAVIOUR / CHARACTER: Calm, quiet dog, cheerful, attentive, alert. Suspicious towards strangers, good watchdog, excellent pet.

Skull: According to his “wolf” type, his skull is broad and strong, yet very elegant. It tapers gradually towards the muzzle. The occiput is barely pronounced.

Stop: Only slight, yet clearly defined. In profile, the upper lines of the muzzle and of the skull are almost parallel.

Nose: In dogs with dark coats, very dark; in dogs with bronze or golden yellow coat, pink or coffee colour; in particolour dogs unpigmented places may occur.

Muzzle: Seen from side, straight; upper and lower jaws strongly developed.

Cheeks: Barely developed.

Teeth: Incisors close tightly in a scissor bite. Over and undershot bite as well as any other anomaly in position of the jaws is to be categorised as a serious fault. Absence of molars and premolars is not penalized.

Eyes: Of medium size, almond shape. They express alertness and livelyness. Colour of eyes differs according to coat colour and ranges from black, coffee-brown, red-brown and amber to yellow. Colour as dark as possible preferred and both eyes should be the same colour. Colour of eyelids ranges from black to brown or gray. Paler colour or pink patches on lids are permitted but not very desirable.

Ears: Ears are long, large and expressive, very elegant and of fine texture. They are reminiscent of “bat” ears. In alertness, they are always pricked, forming an angle of 50 to 80 degrees to the horizontal with their axis. Dogs with cropped or drop ears will be disqualified.

NECK: Carried high, upperline slightly arched.

Length: Comparatively long.

Shape: Slim, flexible, well muscled and very elegant.

Skin: The skin on the neck is firm, elastic, yet close fitting and without dewlap. Puppies show folds on the neck which disappear with increasing age.

BODY: Strongly built.

Withers: Not very defined.

Back: Straight. The topline appears completely straight. Dogs with hollow back (Lordose) or roach back (Xyphose) or those with long narrow backs and short limbs are undesired.

Loins: Strong and muscular.

Rump: The rump is slightly convex in profile. It is inclined at an angle of about 40 degrees to the horizontal. It is strongly made, muscular and slightly rounded.

Chest: Seen from side, long and deep and reaching to the elbow. Ribs are lightly sprung but never flat. Seen from front, the forechest is adequately broad but the tip of the sternum does not protrude.

Belly: The lower line is elegant; it begins under the chest and follows the muscular, tucked up belly in a rising line.

TAIL: Long, thin and with some bristly hair. Set on low, reaching to the hocks and tapering towards the tip. In movement it is carried high, curved, never curled over the back. In repose it hangs down and ends in a slight hook. Under certain circumstances, the tail is tucked, pressed against the underside of the belly which denotes shyness.

FOREQUARTERS: Seen from front, the front legs are straight, vertical, in good proportion and of good length in relation to the body. The shoulders are flat and muscular. The adequate angulation of shoulder-blade – upper arm joints permits free and elegant movement. The strong elbows fit close to the chest wall, never turned outwards.

HINDQUARTERS: Seen from the back, the hindlegs are absolutely straight and parallel with strong, well muscled thighs; never closed behind; the angle of pelvis to upper thigh joint, the stifle and hock, are adequately open to permit free strong movement of the hindquarters. Cowhocks are to be punished severely.

FEET: These are of medium length (hare-foot). The toes, arched and close together, have a little bristly hair. Nails are short and black in animals with dark coats, paler in those with bronze or golden coloured coats. Pads are hard and resistant to any kind of ground. Interdigital membranes well developed. Dewclaws must be removed on all four limbs.

MOVEMENT: In accordance with his angulations, the dog has a long, elegant, springy step; trot is quick and flowing, head and tail carried high.

SKIN: On account of the complete lack of hair, the skin in this breed is of special significance. It is smooth and very sensitive to the touch. It appears warmer as it directly radiates heat, while in coated breeds, the radiation of heat is lost through normal air flow between the hair. Because of this the skin requires more care, as it lacks natural protection against sunshine and the inclemencies of the weather. Scars caused by accidents should not be penalized. The dog perspires through the feet (the pads and interdigital membranes) and therefore hardly ever pants.

TEXTURE: The most important peculiarity of this breed is the complete lack of hair on the body (Hairless Dog), yet he produces some short, bristly and dense hair of any colour on the forehead and neck. This hair must never, either in length or in its soft texture, be similar to the crest hair of a Chinese Crested Dog (or Tai-Tai). Coarse hair is often found on the feet and towards the tip of the tail. If there is no hair at these points, it is not a fault. Dogs with long hair will be disqualified.

COLOUR: Whole colour dogs and dark shades are preferred. The colours range from black to blackish gray, slate gray, dark gray, reddish, liver, bronze to golden yellow. Particolours occur, including white patches.

HEIGHT: There are two sizes for dogs as well as bitches.

A. Standard Variety: From 35 to 58 cm. Height up to 60 cm permissible. Larger animals will be disqualified.

B. Miniature Variety: Maximum height at withers 35 cm.

FAULTS: Any departure from the forgeoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree.

– Nervous or aggressive dog.

– Exaggereted lack of pigment (Albino).

– Hair on parts not mentioned in the standard.

– Skin slack, loose with formation or folds.

– Eyes light in colour, round and protruding.

– Body very long and slim with short legs.

– Cropped or drop ears.

– Over- or undershot bite.

– Long, soft topknot as with a Chinese Crested Dog.

Albino hund

An introduction to eumelanin and phaeomelanin

The K and A series

Somatic mutations, vitiligo and other weirdness

Genes, locii etc

From black to pink and everything inbetween

Punnet squares and a big Labrador case study

Brown, amber and blue

List of alleles for reference

The longhaired gene and hairless dogs

Some more advanced notes on mutation,

selective breeding and evolution

Including body part diagram

In-depth breeding case study

The I and C series

Double merle problems and CDA

A short genetics quiz!

A few links to useful sites

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